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I don't know how to break this to you, but Europe itself has been the burning building for 20 years. I don't see that changing any time soon. The anti-US stuff

I don't know how to break this to you, but Europe itself has been the burning building for 20 years. I don't see that changing any time soon. The anti-US stuff is largely flailing, the US is better positioned than Europe for the next 20 years also. They struggle with investment, have almost no large companies left of any merit in tech, have political problems that are similar to the US's, and regulate themselves to death. It would take a political revolution in Europe to fix that, and frankly they don't have it in them.

aucisson_masque 7mo ago
That's extremely condescending and naive. I'd say Europe citizen are in much better situation than the usa citizens, don't care about tech sector or shareholder revenue. Usa still don't even have universal social security and medications are overpriced 10 time more. Just to name a few. Then there is the American debt. Good luck with that when countries are switching from dollar to yen and euro. No really, I think that there are enough challenge to overcome in the states that you don't need to be condescending.
- themafia 7mo ago
  > Usa still don't even have universal social security It does though. There are several programs, some administered by the federal government, and some by the states. We don't have "single payer" but we absolutely have "universal social security." > and medications are overpriced 10 time more. If you use the sticker price. Sure. It looks that way. If you use the actual pharmacy receipts the story is far different.
- partiallypro 7mo ago
  I don't see how it's condescending or naive (at least anymore than the relative anti-US stuff you I was responding to,) name a large company or big innovation Europe has produced in the past 20 years? The whole continent is basically flat on growth for the past decade. It's literally in the numbers. Europe has been in denial, not the US. It has been very much left behind by China and the US. The US controls its own monetary system, European countries do not, that makes the debt issues a bit exaggerated. Not to mention China's has tremendous debt itself. Also we do have universal social security, and while many medications are expensive at least they are available. Try getting a weeks worth of ibuprofen in Germany, it requires a doctor's appointment. I love Europe and have lived there, but talk to virtually any business person in Europe and they both envy the US and China, not themselves. If you can't see that painfully obvious reality, I don't know what to say, honestly.
trinsic2 7mo ago
Wow there is some serious rep management going on here. Trump Adminstration getting scared their empire collapsing?
- partiallypro 7mo ago
  Nothing to do with Trump. https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-gap-between-europe-and-the-united-states-increased-in-the-past-decade https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-... https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2023/09/04/the-gdp-gap-between-europe-and-the-united-states-is-now-80_6123491_23.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2023/09/04/the-gdp... https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-state-rivals-germany-gdp-per-capita-in-the-us-and-europe https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-...

aucisson_masque 7mo ago

That's extremely condescending and naive. I'd say Europe citizen are in much better situation than the usa citizens, don't care about tech sector or shareholder revenue. Usa still don't even have universal social security and medications are overpriced 10 time more. Just to name a few. Then there is the American debt. Good luck with that when countries are switching from dollar to yen and euro. No really, I think that there are enough challenge to overcome in the states that you don't need to be condescending.

themafia 7mo ago
> Usa still don't even have universal social security It does though. There are several programs, some administered by the federal government, and some by the states. We don't have "single payer" but we absolutely have "universal social security." > and medications are overpriced 10 time more. If you use the sticker price. Sure. It looks that way. If you use the actual pharmacy receipts the story is far different.
partiallypro 7mo ago
I don't see how it's condescending or naive (at least anymore than the relative anti-US stuff you I was responding to,) name a large company or big innovation Europe has produced in the past 20 years? The whole continent is basically flat on growth for the past decade. It's literally in the numbers. Europe has been in denial, not the US. It has been very much left behind by China and the US. The US controls its own monetary system, European countries do not, that makes the debt issues a bit exaggerated. Not to mention China's has tremendous debt itself. Also we do have universal social security, and while many medications are expensive at least they are available. Try getting a weeks worth of ibuprofen in Germany, it requires a doctor's appointment. I love Europe and have lived there, but talk to virtually any business person in Europe and they both envy the US and China, not themselves. If you can't see that painfully obvious reality, I don't know what to say, honestly.

trinsic2 7mo ago

Wow there is some serious rep management going on here. Trump Adminstration getting scared their empire collapsing?

partiallypro 7mo ago
Nothing to do with Trump. https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-gap-between-europe-and-the-united-states-increased-in-the-past-decade https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-... https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2023/09/04/the-gdp-gap-between-europe-and-the-united-states-is-now-80_6123491_23.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2023/09/04/the-gdp... https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-state-rivals-germany-gdp-per-capita-in-the-us-and-europe https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-...