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Mac minis are sold out in NYC these days because everyone gets them to try out openclaw. Even if this move by Apple is unrelated to the recent demand, it certai
by pama 8mo ago
Mac minis are sold out in NYC these days because everyone gets them to try out openclaw. Even if this move by Apple is unrelated to the recent demand, it certainly was timed right for the policy and market makers.
- locusofself 8mo agowhy were mac minis so popular for this compared to any other machine, cloud VPS or local VM?
- llmslave 8mo agoso you can use the full operating system
- amelius 8mo agoBecause these people have Apple IDs, and they need a machine that can access their various accounts.
- retired 8mo agoThe Mac mini has a very good value for money if you need raw performance in a small silent package. Frequently available for between $399 - $499 discounted. A VPS that can perform like a Mac mini will likely cost the same as a Mac mini in 12 months time.
- hackingonempty 8mo agoMacs have "unified memory" meaning the GPU uses the same memory as the CPU and minis can have up to 64 gigs. So its a lot faster than running on a CPU and a lot cheaper than any other GPU based rig with similar memory.
- mholm 8mo agoMost openclaw users are not running the models locally.
- locusofself 8mo agoThis is what I thought. The iMessage integration makes sense I guess though.
- matthewfcarlson 8mo agoIt allows your Claw to access all your iCloud data easily like reminders and iMessage for example
- hirvi74 8mo agoEverything about that makes me feel very uncomfortable. Google made and spent a fortune on getting people's data, and now people are just handing it out for free by the GBs.
- PlatoIsADisease 8mo agoUnified Memory and Integrated GPU. Apple is amazing at marketing to make 1990s technology sound cutting edge. I'm sure they change something for plausible deniability, as a nominalist, not even 2 of the same computers are the same.
- mountainriver 8mo agoMac’s are still pretty terrible at running LLMs. They will be there someday, but that isn’t today
- ErneX 8mo ago
- PlatoIsADisease 8mo agoIn classic Apple fashion, they fooled people into thinking an integrated GPU is the same as Nvidia. Gosh I wish I could hire their marketing company.
- usef- 8mo agoWhere did they say this?
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- TiredOfLife 8mo agoclaws are run mainly by rich american programmers. The only computer they have is a macbook. The only brand they know is apple. The only cloud they know is serverless
- sigmar 8mo agoIt's so funny to me that HN seems convinced that artists have a sudden renewed interest in desktop computers, when LLMs have been driving mac mini sales for more than a year
- F7F7F7 8mo agoI'm a product exec now but used to be designer and lead UX teams. Even though I don't use those skills as much nowadays it's still a almost daily hobby of mine. Like the rest of HN (maybe it's HN's fault!) I managed to convince myself that I not only needed a Mac Mini desktop but also a 4090 rig for AI. The 4090 hasn't been booted up in 9 months and the Mac Mini is now the world's most amazing 10GBE NAS server. My older M1 Max Macbook Pro and underpowered newer Macbook Air are the only things I use.
- abustamam 8mo agoI mean, I'll take the 4090 if you don't want it :) It's funny how we convince ourselves we need things. I bought myself a 3080 Ti a few years ago because I wanted a gaming computer, but then I ended up buying a Playstation 5 and not using my computer for anything more intensive than Factorio. More recently though I have been using my 3080 for Comfy UI image generation and messing around with local models, so I guess it's getting use now.
- trvz 8mo agoI think you’re using “underpowered” wrong here.
- bigyabai 8mo agoIt's so funny to me that X users think OpenClaw represents more than 1% of Apple's desktop sales because it's what their timeline says is true. If you want to humiliate me conclusively, throw me some numbers. LLMs have moved trillions worth of hardware value, but only a fraction of it is Apple branded.
- intrasight 8mo ago
- PlatoIsADisease 8mo agoThe wild part is that these are awful and not usable. Both my fortune 20 company and my buddy got these for LLMs... and the champion/my buddy had the look of shame when it wasnt usable.