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The pricing is extremely steep for a tech-savvy audience that could just set up Tailscale or MOSH.

by ronsor 8mo ago

RIMR 8mo ago
Especially for a tool that only work on macOS and iPhone, and only serves one purpose. Pretty much every developer out there has some kind of tooling that does this already, that also does more. This is a cool little project, but I cannot imagine paying for it.
snowhale 8mo ago
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- frizlab 8mo ago
  In the company where my father works some HTTPS services are blocked too…
- ronsor 8mo ago
  Honestly, at that point I'd just run SSH over WebSockets with websocat. WebRTC only adds extra complexity. Tailscale DERP relay servers also run over port 80/443 anyway.
- jodrellblank 8mo ago
  > "pure HTTPS port 443 -- you literally can't block it without breaking the web." Sure you can, you do Man In The Middle certificate inspection and then filter it aggressively like it was HTTP; that's the product companies like ZScaler offer, and basically any business/enterprise firewall device - internet filtering to protect your company and prevent or detect data exfiltration and malicious activity. Or perhaps you could say that does 'break the web' but companies do it anyway and pay a lot of money so they can do it. (ZScaler is a $23Bn market cap company).
artpar 8mo ago
Here is an implementation you might like https://github.com/artpar/terminal-tunnel https://github.com/artpar/terminal-tunnel P2P with webrtc (pion ftw) with e2ee client side is webui so you can use on any device ps: the default Cloudflare Worker from my account is already maxed out so you will need your own exchange (self host on your account)
foxmoss 8mo ago
Looking at their website it seems they're trying to target a slightly less tech savvy audience which are interested in checking on agents while away. Someone willing to blow cash on overpriced AI subscriptions, I could see justifying blowing money on this.
bergie 8mo ago
Reticulum shell is also an option, and would also work over LoRa https://pypi.org/project/rnsh/ https://pypi.org/project/rnsh/

The pricing is extremely steep for a tech-savvy audience that could just set up Tailscale or MOSH.

by ronsor 8mo ago

The pricing is extremely steep for a tech-savvy audience that could just set up Tailscale or MOSH.

RIMR 8mo ago

Especially for a tool that only work on macOS and iPhone, and only serves one purpose. Pretty much every developer out there has some kind of tooling that does this already, that also does more. This is a cool little project, but I cannot imagine paying for it.

snowhale 8mo ago

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frizlab 8mo ago
In the company where my father works some HTTPS services are blocked too…
ronsor 8mo ago
Honestly, at that point I'd just run SSH over WebSockets with websocat. WebRTC only adds extra complexity. Tailscale DERP relay servers also run over port 80/443 anyway.
jodrellblank 8mo ago
> "pure HTTPS port 443 -- you literally can't block it without breaking the web." Sure you can, you do Man In The Middle certificate inspection and then filter it aggressively like it was HTTP; that's the product companies like ZScaler offer, and basically any business/enterprise firewall device - internet filtering to protect your company and prevent or detect data exfiltration and malicious activity. Or perhaps you could say that does 'break the web' but companies do it anyway and pay a lot of money so they can do it. (ZScaler is a $23Bn market cap company).

artpar 8mo ago

Here is an implementation you might like https://github.com/artpar/terminal-tunnel https://github.com/artpar/terminal-tunnel P2P with webrtc (pion ftw) with e2ee client side is webui so you can use on any device ps: the default Cloudflare Worker from my account is already maxed out so you will need your own exchange (self host on your account)

foxmoss 8mo ago

Looking at their website it seems they're trying to target a slightly less tech savvy audience which are interested in checking on agents while away. Someone willing to blow cash on overpriced AI subscriptions, I could see justifying blowing money on this.

bergie 8mo ago

Reticulum shell is also an option, and would also work over LoRa https://pypi.org/project/rnsh/ https://pypi.org/project/rnsh/