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Altman strikes me as a dude who came from a special tier of toxic upbringing.

noduerme 7mo ago
I wouldn't say he's much different or worse than certain BBS sysadmins I knew in the early 90s... just that I'd never want those guys to be endowed with enough money and hardware to wreak their vision on the world
- PacificSpecific 7mo ago
  That's the problem though. One of those types did get that type of power.
  - rob74 7mo ago
    Not only one of those types, I can think of at least another one that's (IMHO) far worse than Altman. You know, the one with the social network everyone used to use before he turned it into a cesspool of disinformation, the one with the alternate Wikipedia, the obsession with the letter X?
    - PacificSpecific 7mo ago
      That's my bad. I shouldn't have spoken in the singular tense. It's a rich tapestry of losers.
      - noduerme 7mo ago
        You're not wrong. But it's case, not tense. <3 Sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole. I mean, I am one. But I'm not trying to be. Yes, those people did get some control. Yes - they are like the bad versions of us. We can be smarter. We'll win. Their dumb little utopias will collapse. Watch. Tense means past/present/future. Case is for single/multiple pronouns. I dropped out of school but I had a very mean grammar teacher ;)
        PacificSpecific 7mo ago
        Fair enough. I appreciate you taking the time to correct me. No need to be apologetic! It's the only way I'll learn :)
  - noduerme 7mo ago
    Maybe I'm jaded, but I feel like a lot of them did for a moment. Gates, Jobs, Zuck, all got their days of glory and it's quickly that everyone realizes they're a giant misanthropic asshole. If the pot of gold at the end of Altman's quest turns out to be as big as what he's priced it at, then yes, he'll be one of history's most successful sociopaths. If not, he's just another in a long line.
aa-jv 7mo ago
He is literally a manifestation of the phenomenon described in this book: https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.469826 https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.469826 "The Authoritarian Personality" tl;dr - the roots of the authoritarian personality grow fertile in the desire to be free of 'the filth of others'. Altman seems like he'd go crazy if he didn't keep his machine spectacularly clean ..
- accidentallfact 7mo ago
  He was talking about education. I'm pretty sure about it.
  - aa-jv 7mo ago
    He devalues and invalidates his fellow human beings, from a position of disdain, too much for my liking. Avoiding his activities.
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amelius 7mo ago
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- ginko 7mo ago
  He's a college dropout that never done any research. He's a salesman.
  - amelius 7mo ago
    You can't put together a company like OpenAI with just salesman skills.

I wouldn't say he's much different or worse than certain BBS sysadmins I knew in the early 90s... just that I'd never want those guys to be endowed with enough money and hardware to wreak their vision on the world

PacificSpecific 7mo ago
That's the problem though. One of those types did get that type of power.
- rob74 7mo ago
  Not only one of those types, I can think of at least another one that's (IMHO) far worse than Altman. You know, the one with the social network everyone used to use before he turned it into a cesspool of disinformation, the one with the alternate Wikipedia, the obsession with the letter X?
  - PacificSpecific 7mo ago
    That's my bad. I shouldn't have spoken in the singular tense. It's a rich tapestry of losers.
    - noduerme 7mo ago
      You're not wrong. But it's case, not tense. <3 Sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole. I mean, I am one. But I'm not trying to be. Yes, those people did get some control. Yes - they are like the bad versions of us. We can be smarter. We'll win. Their dumb little utopias will collapse. Watch. Tense means past/present/future. Case is for single/multiple pronouns. I dropped out of school but I had a very mean grammar teacher ;)
      - PacificSpecific 7mo ago
        Fair enough. I appreciate you taking the time to correct me. No need to be apologetic! It's the only way I'll learn :)
- noduerme 7mo ago
  Maybe I'm jaded, but I feel like a lot of them did for a moment. Gates, Jobs, Zuck, all got their days of glory and it's quickly that everyone realizes they're a giant misanthropic asshole. If the pot of gold at the end of Altman's quest turns out to be as big as what he's priced it at, then yes, he'll be one of history's most successful sociopaths. If not, he's just another in a long line.

aa-jv 7mo ago

He is literally a manifestation of the phenomenon described in this book: https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.469826 https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.469826 "The Authoritarian Personality" tl;dr - the roots of the authoritarian personality grow fertile in the desire to be free of 'the filth of others'. Altman seems like he'd go crazy if he didn't keep his machine spectacularly clean ..

accidentallfact 7mo ago
He was talking about education. I'm pretty sure about it.
- aa-jv 7mo ago
  He devalues and invalidates his fellow human beings, from a position of disdain, too much for my liking. Avoiding his activities.

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ginko 7mo ago
He's a college dropout that never done any research. He's a salesman.
- amelius 7mo ago
  You can't put together a company like OpenAI with just salesman skills.