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Are people really running OpenClaw on their primary machine? Anyone security-conscious would isolate it on dedicated hardware (old laptop, Raspberry Pi, etc.)

Are people really running OpenClaw on their primary machine? Anyone security-conscious would isolate it on dedicated hardware (old laptop, Raspberry Pi, etc.) with a separate network and chat surface.

amelius 8mo ago
Did Hegseth install OpenClaw in the pentagon yet?
- earleybird 8mo ago
  It's running his Signal chats. You didn't get the invite???
  - latentsea 8mo ago
    No, because he's currently clean on opsec.
chickensong 8mo ago
> Anyone security-conscious Most people aren't, including many professional developers.
- KennyBlanken 8mo ago
  [flagged]
  - JoBrad 8mo ago
    There are definitely problems with homebrew, but user-owned directories isn’t high on the list, imo. Your ssh private keys, startup scripts, and any number of other things that can do serious damage are all owned by your user. Frankly, if install vim as my user, I want it to execute instead of the built-in version, unless I’m running a command with sudo, in which case the system binaries take precedence. So I don’t even see path order as a major issue here. If someone has compromised your user, you’re compromised whether you’ve used homebrew or not.
- nunez 8mo ago
  Verified facts. I work in a co-working space and coffee shops. NOBODY locks their laptop when they leave it. They don't even close the lid! Similarly, people are fine with disclosing their name and DOB at the pharmacy regardless of queue length. Or having their license cards facing outwards for the world to see (and read).
  - chickensong 8mo ago
    > NOBODY locks their laptop when they leave it Back in the day at LAN parties, if you did that you might come back to find your mouse buttons had been reversed, your desktop icons had been cleared and replaced with a screenshot of your desktop icons as wallpaper, or worse. We called it "leaving the keys in the ignition". Simpler times back then, but a great kick-start to opsec.
    - nunez 8mo ago
      yep. hotdogging was a thing too back in the "in the office" days. wfh was a major regression here (though I lock my stuff even when I'm at home).
dylan604 8mo ago
You'd be amazed at the corporate IT world where any extra equipment like that would just not be available and/or allowed. Besides, if it were a corporate machine and not my personal machine and work was forcing me to use AI, I'd have no qualms. They get what they ask for with the equipment provided!
- tylervigen 8mo ago
  How did the question become “which corporate device can I install OpenClaw on?” Who is doing that?
  - dylan604 8mo ago
    Because I positioned it that way. I keep getting urged by “the man” to look into using AI. This is the only way it’ll ever happen. I’m not wasting my personal time nor resources to do it
jofzar 8mo ago
Brother people watch porn on their company laptop, you think people are using protection for their openclaw's?
- SahAssar 8mo ago
  Watching porn is a lot more safe than running openclaw.
otabdeveloper4 8mo ago
> buy an airgapped network and its own RPi for OpenClaw > give it your email and Google passwords

amelius 8mo ago

Did Hegseth install OpenClaw in the pentagon yet?

earleybird 8mo ago
It's running his Signal chats. You didn't get the invite???
- latentsea 8mo ago
  No, because he's currently clean on opsec.

chickensong 8mo ago

> Anyone security-conscious Most people aren't, including many professional developers.

KennyBlanken 8mo ago
[flagged]
- JoBrad 8mo ago
  There are definitely problems with homebrew, but user-owned directories isn’t high on the list, imo. Your ssh private keys, startup scripts, and any number of other things that can do serious damage are all owned by your user. Frankly, if install vim as my user, I want it to execute instead of the built-in version, unless I’m running a command with sudo, in which case the system binaries take precedence. So I don’t even see path order as a major issue here. If someone has compromised your user, you’re compromised whether you’ve used homebrew or not.
nunez 8mo ago
Verified facts. I work in a co-working space and coffee shops. NOBODY locks their laptop when they leave it. They don't even close the lid! Similarly, people are fine with disclosing their name and DOB at the pharmacy regardless of queue length. Or having their license cards facing outwards for the world to see (and read).
- chickensong 8mo ago
  > NOBODY locks their laptop when they leave it Back in the day at LAN parties, if you did that you might come back to find your mouse buttons had been reversed, your desktop icons had been cleared and replaced with a screenshot of your desktop icons as wallpaper, or worse. We called it "leaving the keys in the ignition". Simpler times back then, but a great kick-start to opsec.
  - nunez 8mo ago
    yep. hotdogging was a thing too back in the "in the office" days. wfh was a major regression here (though I lock my stuff even when I'm at home).

dylan604 8mo ago

You'd be amazed at the corporate IT world where any extra equipment like that would just not be available and/or allowed. Besides, if it were a corporate machine and not my personal machine and work was forcing me to use AI, I'd have no qualms. They get what they ask for with the equipment provided!

tylervigen 8mo ago
How did the question become “which corporate device can I install OpenClaw on?” Who is doing that?
- dylan604 8mo ago
  Because I positioned it that way. I keep getting urged by “the man” to look into using AI. This is the only way it’ll ever happen. I’m not wasting my personal time nor resources to do it

jofzar 8mo ago

Brother people watch porn on their company laptop, you think people are using protection for their openclaw's?

SahAssar 8mo ago
Watching porn is a lot more safe than running openclaw.

otabdeveloper4 8mo ago

> buy an airgapped network and its own RPi for OpenClaw > give it your email and Google passwords