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I'm asking you for the alternative. Every day this continues on is literally ruining lives before they start. Like lead in water, time is of the essence. So wha

I'm asking you for the alternative. Every day this continues on is literally ruining lives before they start. Like lead in water, time is of the essence. So what is the alternative to fix it?

trinsic2 8mo ago
Support candidates that will put anti-trust first and end citizen united. Both of these issue make holding companies accountable for the harm that is being caused by lack of transparency impossible. The problem is corruption and corporations not being accountable to the people. When those problems get resolved. These issues will become less problematic.
- SecretDreams 8mo ago
  I love the vision. Might take a decade or more to play out. We don't want a list generation in the interim, so what do we do asap to get it under control?
  - trinsic2 8mo ago
    We don't. The problems are created by corporate greed, they are only solved by dealing with that. Making the internet less free as I said, isn't the answer, and there is no way to fix this in the short term without making the corruption worse.
    - SecretDreams 8mo ago
      Respectfully, I disagree and find your proposed solution, akin to "keep letting young people have their lives ruined", unsatisfactory. Which is probably why we're in this mess.
      - trinsic2 8mo ago
        Its been my experience that our lives, whether they are ruined or not, are up to us. Making someone else responsibility only prolongs the problem. You either see that, or you don't. It's pretty clear at this point that corruption and greed is the problem and the fact that we cant see our way forward to being responsible adults is the part that is going to cause humanities downfall. When everything come crashing down, the people that will be left are the people that are taking responsibility for the problem and not making it someone else's.
        SecretDreams 8mo ago
        > Its been my experience that our lives, whether they are ruined or not, are up to us. This maybe applies to adults. It does not to children that cannot yet fend for themselves. You are basically throwing them to the wolves. This can be your choice, but it won't be mine.
        trinsic2 8mo ago
        We are not throwing them to the wolves. Our complacency created this problem and now kids are being affected by our actions and inactions. IMHO the best we can do as parents is try to protect them in a world gone mad. Appealing to governments and corporations that created this problem in the first place (with our acquiescence) is going to make the problem worse because we have evil people behind the scenes using this information against our wishes.

I'm asking you for the alternative. Every day this continues on is literally ruining lives before they start. Like lead in water, time is of the essence. So what is the alternative to fix it?

trinsic2 8mo ago

Support candidates that will put anti-trust first and end citizen united. Both of these issue make holding companies accountable for the harm that is being caused by lack of transparency impossible. The problem is corruption and corporations not being accountable to the people. When those problems get resolved. These issues will become less problematic.

SecretDreams 8mo ago
I love the vision. Might take a decade or more to play out. We don't want a list generation in the interim, so what do we do asap to get it under control?
- trinsic2 8mo ago
  We don't. The problems are created by corporate greed, they are only solved by dealing with that. Making the internet less free as I said, isn't the answer, and there is no way to fix this in the short term without making the corruption worse.
  - SecretDreams 8mo ago
    Respectfully, I disagree and find your proposed solution, akin to "keep letting young people have their lives ruined", unsatisfactory. Which is probably why we're in this mess.
    - trinsic2 8mo ago
      Its been my experience that our lives, whether they are ruined or not, are up to us. Making someone else responsibility only prolongs the problem. You either see that, or you don't. It's pretty clear at this point that corruption and greed is the problem and the fact that we cant see our way forward to being responsible adults is the part that is going to cause humanities downfall. When everything come crashing down, the people that will be left are the people that are taking responsibility for the problem and not making it someone else's.
      - SecretDreams 8mo ago
        > Its been my experience that our lives, whether they are ruined or not, are up to us. This maybe applies to adults. It does not to children that cannot yet fend for themselves. You are basically throwing them to the wolves. This can be your choice, but it won't be mine.
        trinsic2 8mo ago
        We are not throwing them to the wolves. Our complacency created this problem and now kids are being affected by our actions and inactions. IMHO the best we can do as parents is try to protect them in a world gone mad. Appealing to governments and corporations that created this problem in the first place (with our acquiescence) is going to make the problem worse because we have evil people behind the scenes using this information against our wishes.