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The minute internet became widespread it was game over. Pros and cons. :/ It'll never happen, but we need a bill of rights for privacy. The laypeople aren't w
by echelon 8mo ago
The minute internet became widespread it was game over.
Pros and cons. :/
It'll never happen, but we need a bill of rights for privacy. The laypeople aren't well-versed or pained enough to ask for this, and big interest donors oppose it.
Maybe the EU and states like California will pioneer something here, though?
Edit: in general, I'm far more excited by cheap lidar tech than I am afraid of the downsides. We just need to be vigilant.
- chha 8mo agoThe EU already has. GDPR and the AI Act puts a lot of limits on what you can do in the open space, although it doesn't always go far enough.
- jonplackett 8mo agoAnd barely gets enforced
- StopDisinfo910 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDPR_fines_and_notices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDPR_fines_and_notices Top 5 fines: 1 - Meta - Ireland - €1.2 billion 2 - Amazon Europe - Luxembourg - €746 millions 3 - WhatsApp - Ireland - €225 millions 4 - British Airway - UK - £183 millions 5 - Google - France - €60 millions I wish every law barely got enforced this way.
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- throawayonthe 8mo agopretty pathetic, but people keep insisting you can regulate capital
- Zanfa 8mo agoI'd say the numbers listed here prove the GPs point of poor enforcement. The largest fine is roughly 0.97% of Meta's 2023 revenue, the equivalent of a $600 fine for somebody making 60k / year. It's a tiny-tiny cost of doing business at best, definitely not a deterrent, given Meta's blatant disregard for GDPR since then.
- StopDisinfo910 8mo ago1% of Meta's global revenue is a tiny-tiny cost of doing business? At that point, I think I can stop even trying to argue here. It's a massive fine any way you put it. Especially when you consider the ceiling hasn't been reached and non compliance is more and more costly by design.
- KoolKat23 8mo agoTheir net profit was $60billion in 2024. This is peanuts. It can fluctuate by multiples of this fine in a month, depending on whether or not they've had a bad or good month, nevermind year. This pretty much is just a cost of doing business.
- Zanfa 8mo agoIt's not even 1% of their annual revenue, let alone the entire multi year period they've been in breach before and since. It's nothing to them.
- StopDisinfo910 8mo agoThe interesting part is that it keeps going up. You seem to believe we have somehow reached a cap where Meta can just expense it as a cost of doing business. That's not how European law works. The fine maximum is far higher and repeated non compliance keeps making the fines higher and higher. It's a ladder not a sizing precedent.
- Detrytus 8mo agoMaximum GDPR fine is 4% of global revenue in the previous year. If a company has 30% profit margin then they can, in theory, treat is as a cost of doing business, indefinitely.
- mdrzn 8mo ago2775 fines for a total of €6.8B since July 2018. It's not A LOT (I would hope for A LOT MORE fines), but it's not nothing. https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
- jonplackett 8mo agoIt’s very interesting. Thanks for sharing. But also kinda weird. There seems to be a lot of fines for hospitals for example. Some Portuguese hospital was fined €400,000 for ‘Insufficient technical and organisational measures to ensure information security’
- jacquesm 8mo agoMedical, banking and insurance are three industries that the European data privacy watchdogs are much more strict about because of the potential for damage.
- seanmcdirmid 8mo agoLidar doesn’t really give you much to “see”, just shape and distance…so I’m a bit confused how it can be used for invasive surveillance, do you mean when fused with vision input it somehow allows it to infer more privacy stuff?