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I sort of bounce off of org over and over because I find it very unreadable. Compared to Markdown (I know Markdown isn't quite the same thing), org feels very c

I sort of bounce off of org over and over because I find it very unreadable. Compared to Markdown (I know Markdown isn't quite the same thing), org feels very crusty and noisy.

nine_k 8mo ago
This totally depends on how you set up your org face attributes. I keep using Org because, for me, it's far more readable than Markdown. Also, it's always a tree. The three operations, like folding, traversal,. etc, are essential for me, and not available in Markdown. Fortunately, GitHub understands README.org files.
- dotancohen 8mo ago
  Emacs folds and unfolds Markdown just like Org since about 29.0 at least I think.
  - solarkraft 8mo ago
    How does it save the state?
    - dotancohen 8mo ago
      Ask Jason Blevins: https://jblevins.org/projects/markdown-mode/ https://jblevins.org/projects/markdown-mode/
      - solarkraft 8mo ago
        The answer, as provided by Gemini based on this article, is: It doesn’t. And that disqualifies it from real world use to me, sadly.
        dotancohen 8mo ago
        I see, thanks. I reset Org mode state as well on file open, so I never noticed (it never bothered me) that Markdown state is not stored. Have a peaceful Sabbath.
Ferret7446 8mo ago
While org mode can do almost anything, it is foremost an outliner, not a markup language like markdown. Using org-mode in place of Markdown is like using MS Word for coding, so no wonder
- nathan_compton 8mo ago
  I think you are right. My real issue is that I don't have an "outliner" brain. I've never really understood why people make outlines or even, really, take notes. Org's utility to me is then the making and keeping track of todos. But markdown can do that without much trouble.
dotancohen 8mo ago
I actually pandoced my Markdown files to Org mode a few years ago because Org mode is easier to read in plain text editors. I especially like the use of dashes for lists. However, even in Emacs Org mode, I still use `backtick` fences in inline code.

I sort of bounce off of org over and over because I find it very unreadable. Compared to Markdown (I know Markdown isn't quite the same thing), org feels very crusty and noisy.

nine_k 8mo ago

This totally depends on how you set up your org face attributes. I keep using Org because, for me, it's far more readable than Markdown. Also, it's always a tree. The three operations, like folding, traversal,. etc, are essential for me, and not available in Markdown. Fortunately, GitHub understands README.org files.

dotancohen 8mo ago
Emacs folds and unfolds Markdown just like Org since about 29.0 at least I think.
- solarkraft 8mo ago
  How does it save the state?
  - dotancohen 8mo ago
    Ask Jason Blevins: https://jblevins.org/projects/markdown-mode/ https://jblevins.org/projects/markdown-mode/
    - solarkraft 8mo ago
      The answer, as provided by Gemini based on this article, is: It doesn’t. And that disqualifies it from real world use to me, sadly.
      - dotancohen 8mo ago
        I see, thanks. I reset Org mode state as well on file open, so I never noticed (it never bothered me) that Markdown state is not stored. Have a peaceful Sabbath.

Ferret7446 8mo ago

While org mode can do almost anything, it is foremost an outliner, not a markup language like markdown. Using org-mode in place of Markdown is like using MS Word for coding, so no wonder

nathan_compton 8mo ago
I think you are right. My real issue is that I don't have an "outliner" brain. I've never really understood why people make outlines or even, really, take notes. Org's utility to me is then the making and keeping track of todos. But markdown can do that without much trouble.

dotancohen 8mo ago

I actually pandoced my Markdown files to Org mode a few years ago because Org mode is easier to read in plain text editors. I especially like the use of dashes for lists. However, even in Emacs Org mode, I still use `backtick` fences in inline code.