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I also see another side of the problem - too many services are proxied via CloudFlare making it easy to disrupt at the same time. Folks really need to try and c
by isodev 8mo ago
I also see another side of the problem - too many services are proxied via CloudFlare making it easy to disrupt at the same time. Folks really need to try and choose alternatives instead of feeding the “world firewall”
- muyuu 8mo agowhy? so La Liga can more easily target smaller providers? if anything the "world firewall" here has a redeeming feature, making this nonsense a lot more costly
- MichaelZuo 8mo agoSome people genuinely believe the european copyright system (and La Liga and the Spanish judiciary) has more than 0% legitimacy… is it truly that hard to imagine?
- AnthonyMouse 8mo agoCollective punishment is such overreach that it's a violation of the Geneva conventions. You do that and you no longer have more than 0% legitimacy.
- MichaelZuo 8mo agoI meant even after the fact they still believe to some degree of legitimacy.
- AnthonyMouse 8mo agoBelieving that an action is legitimate when it isn't simply means that they're in error.
- inigyou 8mo ago[dead]
- josephcsible 8mo agoHow is that a bad thing? Our goal should be to maximize the amount of collateral damage that any censorship causes, with the ideal case being that the only two choices available to the censors are "no censorship at all" or "completely air gap yourself like North Korea".
- jen20 8mo agoThat extreme centralization makes the single choke-point vulnerable to all kinds of other problems. The web is supposed to be decentralized and distributed.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo agoIn theory. It’s strange to argue about hypothetical issues with something currently defending against actual problems. One battle at a time.
- handoflixue 8mo agoI'd hardly call decentralization a "hypothetical" issue: we've already seen governments are willing to issue gag orders so that we can't even find out what they're doing inside major companies. That's clearly a lot easier to do when there's a single central point of control. If there's a single central point of control, then that also means an outage takes everything offline, instead of just 1-2 tools. That also makes it a bigger target for attackers.
- jen20 8mo agoIt doesn't even need to be an attacker - CloudFlare themselves have managed to take down impressive portions of the internet more times than should be accepted just this year.
- throwaway290 8mo agoSo do you apply the same logic for measures gov/Apple/etc put out about on-device scanning and e2e messaging stuff? It's always "hypothetical" until it hits the fan.
- learningstud 7mo agoWhat DDoS mitigations are there besides the less affordable Akamai?