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Maybe most EVs in the wild, but no way for EVs being sold today. There are only 5 cars on this list below 200: https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-ran

by foota 8mo ago

Maybe most EVs in the wild, but no way for EVs being sold today. There are only 5 cars on this list below 200: https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-cons..., and more than half above 300.

ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
"Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consu..." on this server." But I mean, you say that but if you test a car advertised as having 200 miles real-world performance then in practical terms that's about 120 miles. You might get 200 miles if you're driving in a perfectly straight line on a perfectly flat motorway at a steady speed.
- foota 8mo ago
  That's... weird? Maybe it's blocked in your country? The link opens just fine for me. Those were tested numbers, not advertised though. I don't see how you'd get a drop from 200 to 120 miles, that's a 40% drop. Maybe in a gasoline powered car, but EVs can regeneratively break, so I don't think it'd make that much of a difference. Reading some more, there are a handful of different ratings. the old European one: NEDC, the new European one: WLTP, the US EPA, and China's CLTC. Generally the ratings from lowest to highest go EPA, WLTP, NEDC, then CLTC. The EPA rating is just a tad high I've read when you look at fast highway driving (e.g., 75 MPH), but should be within ballpark range. I think you're under estimating the range of modern EVs.
  - ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
    I've driven some brand new 3-digit-miles Kia Niro EVs, which start off indicating 200 miles range but have dropped to 150 by the time I get across town, and after about 100 miles total driving they're screaming at me to find a charging point. The real-world performance does not match the advertised performance.

by foota 8mo ago

ErroneousBosh 8mo ago

"Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consu..." on this server." But I mean, you say that but if you test a car advertised as having 200 miles real-world performance then in practical terms that's about 120 miles. You might get 200 miles if you're driving in a perfectly straight line on a perfectly flat motorway at a steady speed.

foota 8mo ago
That's... weird? Maybe it's blocked in your country? The link opens just fine for me. Those were tested numbers, not advertised though. I don't see how you'd get a drop from 200 to 120 miles, that's a 40% drop. Maybe in a gasoline powered car, but EVs can regeneratively break, so I don't think it'd make that much of a difference. Reading some more, there are a handful of different ratings. the old European one: NEDC, the new European one: WLTP, the US EPA, and China's CLTC. Generally the ratings from lowest to highest go EPA, WLTP, NEDC, then CLTC. The EPA rating is just a tad high I've read when you look at fast highway driving (e.g., 75 MPH), but should be within ballpark range. I think you're under estimating the range of modern EVs.
- ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
  I've driven some brand new 3-digit-miles Kia Niro EVs, which start off indicating 200 miles range but have dropped to 150 by the time I get across town, and after about 100 miles total driving they're screaming at me to find a charging point. The real-world performance does not match the advertised performance.