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> If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? How is that analogy in any way relevant? The OpenClaw I control is extreme

> If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? How is that analogy in any way relevant? The OpenClaw I control is extremely useful to me. I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. Go do something you enjoy. Turning it into Chicken Little doomerism is completely uncalled for.

backscratches 7mo ago
Better analogy is the clawcake has no new ingredients, we've been cooking with the same ones for years now, and its a shame people are such terrible bakers that they are so impressed.
- patcon 7mo ago
  "people" is doing a lot of work here. "people" is 99.9% of the world population that will be amazed and feel transformed when this hits scale. No one will care that the 0.1% are unimpressed and condescending about their increasingly-less-relevant expertise, and they won't care that you think it's made of simply carbon-based ingredients (yes, I'm a biochemist-technologist, and I'm alluding to how the whole biosphere is made of stupid simple things, mostly the same shit in repeating patterns, but that the right combination of them, with the right transition moment and energetics, it changes the whole ecology)
prmoustache 7mo ago
> . I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. People are excited all the time with junk food, drugs and lots of silly easy dopamine hits.That doesn't mean it is good for them.
LightBug1 7mo ago
Jesus ... did you not read what that OP wrote? Your response sounds like a breathless teenager. Stop and think.
h4ch1 7mo ago
This doomer attitude is something I have towards all software products these days, not just *claws. People use dependencies willy-nilly, avoid proper auditing of LLM output; all that have disastrous consequences as we've seen the past few years. NPM supply chain attacks, prompt injection causing data exfil, etc. I am simply saying it's imperative to UNDERSTAND the platform before making it a core part of your life. If wanting proper understanding of vibe coded projects with dependency hell is Chicken Little doomerism, oh well.
- LightBug1 7mo ago
  Oblig:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A

backscratches 7mo ago

Better analogy is the clawcake has no new ingredients, we've been cooking with the same ones for years now, and its a shame people are such terrible bakers that they are so impressed.

patcon 7mo ago
"people" is doing a lot of work here. "people" is 99.9% of the world population that will be amazed and feel transformed when this hits scale. No one will care that the 0.1% are unimpressed and condescending about their increasingly-less-relevant expertise, and they won't care that you think it's made of simply carbon-based ingredients (yes, I'm a biochemist-technologist, and I'm alluding to how the whole biosphere is made of stupid simple things, mostly the same shit in repeating patterns, but that the right combination of them, with the right transition moment and energetics, it changes the whole ecology)

prmoustache 7mo ago

> . I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. People are excited all the time with junk food, drugs and lots of silly easy dopamine hits.That doesn't mean it is good for them.

LightBug1 7mo ago

Jesus ... did you not read what that OP wrote? Your response sounds like a breathless teenager. Stop and think.

h4ch1 7mo ago

This doomer attitude is something I have towards all software products these days, not just *claws. People use dependencies willy-nilly, avoid proper auditing of LLM output; all that have disastrous consequences as we've seen the past few years. NPM supply chain attacks, prompt injection causing data exfil, etc. I am simply saying it's imperative to UNDERSTAND the platform before making it a core part of your life. If wanting proper understanding of vibe coded projects with dependency hell is Chicken Little doomerism, oh well.

LightBug1 7mo ago
Oblig:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A