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I don't care whether openclaw is built out of ice cream and sprinkles, I will still be amazed as a tech person If something can automate my professional or per

by patcon 8mo ago

I don't care whether openclaw is built out of ice cream and sprinkles, I will still be amazed as a tech person If something can automate my professional or personal life, it is wild technology and ppl will talk about it a lot. People are not idiots. A new thing is happening, would you not agree? What its parts are specifically made of, it does not matter imho

h4ch1 8mo ago
This is an ostrich-head-in-the-sand type of outlook. If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? It's important to know what goes into building *claws because of how pervasive they are; sooner or later because of all the hype they'll start being used everywhere and if people take your attitude it's a disaster waiting to happen. Giving them unfettered access to your life and not even wonder if the foundation is solid is concerning imho.
- emptysongglass 8mo ago
  > If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? How is that analogy in any way relevant? The OpenClaw I control is extremely useful to me. I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. Go do something you enjoy. Turning it into Chicken Little doomerism is completely uncalled for.
  - backscratches 8mo ago
    Better analogy is the clawcake has no new ingredients, we've been cooking with the same ones for years now, and its a shame people are such terrible bakers that they are so impressed.
    - patcon 7mo ago
      "people" is doing a lot of work here. "people" is 99.9% of the world population that will be amazed and feel transformed when this hits scale. No one will care that the 0.1% are unimpressed and condescending about their increasingly-less-relevant expertise, and they won't care that you think it's made of simply carbon-based ingredients (yes, I'm a biochemist-technologist, and I'm alluding to how the whole biosphere is made of stupid simple things, mostly the same shit in repeating patterns, but that the right combination of them, with the right transition moment and energetics, it changes the whole ecology)
  - prmoustache 8mo ago
    > . I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. People are excited all the time with junk food, drugs and lots of silly easy dopamine hits.That doesn't mean it is good for them.
  - LightBug1 8mo ago
    Jesus ... did you not read what that OP wrote? Your response sounds like a breathless teenager. Stop and think.
  - h4ch1 8mo ago
    This doomer attitude is something I have towards all software products these days, not just *claws. People use dependencies willy-nilly, avoid proper auditing of LLM output; all that have disastrous consequences as we've seen the past few years. NPM supply chain attacks, prompt injection causing data exfil, etc. I am simply saying it's imperative to UNDERSTAND the platform before making it a core part of your life. If wanting proper understanding of vibe coded projects with dependency hell is Chicken Little doomerism, oh well.
    - LightBug1 8mo ago
      Oblig:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A

by patcon 8mo ago

h4ch1 8mo ago

This is an ostrich-head-in-the-sand type of outlook. If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? It's important to know what goes into building *claws because of how pervasive they are; sooner or later because of all the hype they'll start being used everywhere and if people take your attitude it's a disaster waiting to happen. Giving them unfettered access to your life and not even wonder if the foundation is solid is concerning imho.

emptysongglass 8mo ago
> If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? How is that analogy in any way relevant? The OpenClaw I control is extremely useful to me. I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. Go do something you enjoy. Turning it into Chicken Little doomerism is completely uncalled for.
- backscratches 8mo ago
  Better analogy is the clawcake has no new ingredients, we've been cooking with the same ones for years now, and its a shame people are such terrible bakers that they are so impressed.
  - patcon 7mo ago
    "people" is doing a lot of work here. "people" is 99.9% of the world population that will be amazed and feel transformed when this hits scale. No one will care that the 0.1% are unimpressed and condescending about their increasingly-less-relevant expertise, and they won't care that you think it's made of simply carbon-based ingredients (yes, I'm a biochemist-technologist, and I'm alluding to how the whole biosphere is made of stupid simple things, mostly the same shit in repeating patterns, but that the right combination of them, with the right transition moment and energetics, it changes the whole ecology)
- prmoustache 8mo ago
  > . I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. People are excited all the time with junk food, drugs and lots of silly easy dopamine hits.That doesn't mean it is good for them.
- LightBug1 8mo ago
  Jesus ... did you not read what that OP wrote? Your response sounds like a breathless teenager. Stop and think.
- h4ch1 8mo ago
  This doomer attitude is something I have towards all software products these days, not just *claws. People use dependencies willy-nilly, avoid proper auditing of LLM output; all that have disastrous consequences as we've seen the past few years. NPM supply chain attacks, prompt injection causing data exfil, etc. I am simply saying it's imperative to UNDERSTAND the platform before making it a core part of your life. If wanting proper understanding of vibe coded projects with dependency hell is Chicken Little doomerism, oh well.
  - LightBug1 8mo ago
    Oblig:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-nVF6hw3A