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> Pretty much every gas station already has [electricity]. Sure but they don't have electric vehicle recharging electricity. They have run the pumps and power

> Pretty much every gas station already has [electricity]. Sure but they don't have electric vehicle recharging electricity. They have run the pumps and power the lights electricity.

BadBadJellyBean 8mo ago
Still seems like a smaller investment to get a bigger cable than H2 infrastructure (Tanks, Pumps, maybe even electrolysis system).
- buckle8017 8mo ago
  Bigger cable is a laugh. Bigger cable, upgraded delivery infrastructure to support that cable (think more or stronger poles), transformer upgrades, and finally the charging stations which unlike the home ones aren't just a complicated switch because DC fast charging. H2 is a stupid fuel, but the idea that high power vehicle charging stations are a cheap or simple upgrade to a gas station is ridiculous.
  - BadBadJellyBean 8mo ago
    You are correct that neither option is free BUT there are options. I don't know but to me it seem like the cheaper option than building the H2 infrastructure. Second of all there are options like on site battery/capacitor banks that can buffer the energy used for the faster charging. It might not be for everywhere but as a final option there is slower charging.
MBCook 8mo ago
True, but they already exist. Hydrogen stations don’t. If you have to build new ones, especially if you have to supply them with enough power to create their own hydrogen for water, what’s the difference from just building EV chargers? And if you’re going to add hydrogen to existing gasoline stations then same question. If hydrogen was somehow able to use existing gasoline infrastructure it would make a lot more sense. But it’s not.
- glitchc 8mo ago
  H2 can be transported by trucks. Must lay expensive hydro infrastructure to do the same for electricity.
  - XorNot 8mo ago
    But not by the same trailers, not stored in the same tanks as gasoline, nor transferred by the same pumps. This like saying obviously we can distribute grain using gasoline infrastructure: after all, also both transported by trucks.

> Pretty much every gas station already has [electricity]. Sure but they don't have electric vehicle recharging electricity. They have run the pumps and power the lights electricity.

BadBadJellyBean 8mo ago

Still seems like a smaller investment to get a bigger cable than H2 infrastructure (Tanks, Pumps, maybe even electrolysis system).

buckle8017 8mo ago
Bigger cable is a laugh. Bigger cable, upgraded delivery infrastructure to support that cable (think more or stronger poles), transformer upgrades, and finally the charging stations which unlike the home ones aren't just a complicated switch because DC fast charging. H2 is a stupid fuel, but the idea that high power vehicle charging stations are a cheap or simple upgrade to a gas station is ridiculous.
- BadBadJellyBean 8mo ago
  You are correct that neither option is free BUT there are options. I don't know but to me it seem like the cheaper option than building the H2 infrastructure. Second of all there are options like on site battery/capacitor banks that can buffer the energy used for the faster charging. It might not be for everywhere but as a final option there is slower charging.

MBCook 8mo ago

True, but they already exist. Hydrogen stations don’t. If you have to build new ones, especially if you have to supply them with enough power to create their own hydrogen for water, what’s the difference from just building EV chargers? And if you’re going to add hydrogen to existing gasoline stations then same question. If hydrogen was somehow able to use existing gasoline infrastructure it would make a lot more sense. But it’s not.

glitchc 8mo ago
H2 can be transported by trucks. Must lay expensive hydro infrastructure to do the same for electricity.
- XorNot 8mo ago
  But not by the same trailers, not stored in the same tanks as gasoline, nor transferred by the same pumps. This like saying obviously we can distribute grain using gasoline infrastructure: after all, also both transported by trucks.