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Acme Weather

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basicoperation 8mo ago
The site doesn’t make it clear, but it’s not available worldwide. The App Store doesn’t tell you where exactly it is available, but it’s not in the UK. This surprised me seeing as one of the example images shows Europe, including the south coast of Britain.
- pzmarzly 8mo ago
  From website's FAQ: Acme is currently available in the United States (including Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico) and Canada.
- esoltys 8mo ago
  In Canada it's $35/yr and I don't see any indication of the 2-week trial that's mentioned on their website. Probably can still cancel within two weeks, but it simply has a Subscribe button before you can do anything.
qkc3p3Jbf4 8mo ago
Looks lovely. I was keen to try this but US and Canada only unfortunately. Also: subscription fatigue is real. Of course I understand that fetching weather data isn’t free etc. (even though I’m intrigued by their homegrown forecast model) but I’ve already got 10+ subscriptions on iOS and I’m not sure if I’ve got the stomach for another. Apple’s weather app is finally good though since the Dark Sky acquisition.
- RebeccaTheDev 8mo ago
  > Also: subscription fatigue is real. This. I just went and cancelled a bunch of vampire subscriptions that had accrued in my life (both in and out of the Apple ecosystem) and ended up saving somewhere in the range of $60 a month. I get that people have bills to pay and building and maintaining software costs money, but when everyone wants money from me for every little thing, eventually I have to decide who gets what cut from an increasingly limited sized pie. Apps like this that, while beautiful, replicate functionality that is "good enough" that I can get for free are the first thing to be cut.
  - scoot 8mo ago
    Going even further off topic, one of the things I love with Apple is having all your subscriptions in one place, and being able to cancel them easily. The few zombie subscriptions I've had have all existed outside of the App store, one that I didn't even sign up for (looking at you Masterclass). I bought a one year gift subscription for someone else, and because it came with a "free" subscription for me (that I didn't use), I git hit with annual renewals until I noticed it on my credit card statement and cancelled. Yes, I should check those more frequently, but who has time for that? It rankles that you can can cancel a free trial before it's over with every app exept Apple's. I like the feature, but the double standard grates.
JensenTorp 8mo ago
Subscription app in 2026, no thanks.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  Your phone comes with a free weather app. There are thousands more free apps for folks who don’t mind ads. Weather requires ongoing costs. It’s always going to need to be maintained because meteorological models are evolving. Anything beyond a viewport will need to track and metabolize those changes.
  - imiric 8mo ago
    > Weather requires ongoing costs. I strongly doubt that this company runs their own weather stations or meteorological models. Their only recurring cost is API access to the companies that provide weather data, a negligible amount of IT infrastructure, and their employees. Considering that there are many free weather APIs, and that a polished frontend can be built by a single person, what exactly are the overheads? To be fair, I'm not criticizing the subscription model. I think it makes sense for software that needs to be continually maintained. But a weather app shouldn't have large maintenance costs that couldn't be covered by a one-time payment. A big reason why companies love the Apple ecosystem is because subscriptions have been normalized, and users are used to paying them regardless if the model actually makes sense for the type of software.
    - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
      > strongly doubt that this company runs their own weather stations or meteorological models. Their only recurring cost is API access to the companies that provide weather data No. But I'd suspect a tabula rasa approach to weather–particularly given it hasn't been rolled out globally in one go–incorporates satellite data, local measurements, et cetera. Again, that may not take constant subscriprtion. But it does take constant expert monitoring and awareness. > Considering that there are many free weather APIs If you're a glorified viewport into these APIs' data, you may be able to stick with their most-static data and fire and forget. In reality, what those outputs mean change as the models and techniques evolve. There are new APIs with new data constantly coming out, and they're often adding connectors. > a weather app shouldn't have large maintenance costs that couldn't be covered by a one-time payment The only way I see this working is if the user is explicitly aware the app can break at any time if one of the APIs change anything, which they often do, and that this may not cause any obvious failures, just a decay in the app's accuracy or usefulness.
Lord_Zero 8mo ago
Is there really that much money in making a weather app where you can quit your job at apple and do that?
- cryptoz 8mo ago
  They sold their last weather app to Apple for like, tens of millions or something. These aren’t some random Apple employees. Also, it seems a common misunderstanding about some weather apps: yes, most of them just package free data and steal your privacy, but some are really much more than a “weather app”. Some are attempts at building next-generation weather forecast models, which if successful are of course worth billions. I’ve spent a lot of time building innovative weather apps, most of my career actually. And it’s always shocking to me when people say I’m wasting time or wasting my life or look at me like, “really? You’re dedicating your life to weather apps?!” No dawg, I’m trying to improve short term forecasts to save life and property from severe events at scale! I’m not sure what the Acme end goal is, but surely this isn’t just a “weather app”.
  - Galanwe 8mo ago
    > I’m trying [...] to save life and property from severe events at scale Tell me you work in Silicon Valley without telling me you work in silicon Valley. Sorry but I couldn't resist. There is something in US startup mentality where you can't just "create an app and make a living", you have to be on a grand mission to save the world. That may be normal out there, but for the rest of the world it just seems... Get back to earth man :-)
    - dan00 8mo ago
      It‘s exactly the kind of words that venture capital wants to here.
    - 3rodents 8mo ago
      Sure, most of us are doing nothing to help people and are using grandiose language to describe reticulating splines. I don’t think that applies to good weather apps though, a lot of people do die because they are unaware of weather events. I would be very unsurprised to learn that any major weather app has directly saved lives. The U.S is a very… weatherful place.
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jwr 8mo ago
Doesn't seem to be available in the EU. Yet another US-only app with US-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to.
- lionkor 8mo ago
  I'm in Germany and I really enjoy the Norwegian weather app YR, it's nice and simple and very clean.
- ca6d8815 8mo ago
  Try your local weather app. Here in Switzerland the MeteoSwiss app is absolutely wonderful, and has all these main features: - Uncertainty bands in the forecast (the bands are a better UX than more lines imo) - User-supplied reports - Many many many different maps (snow / cloud / wind / sunshine / air quality / etc) - Alerts (not notifications, but real alerts to watch out for something) Plus many more other features. I found Yr in Norway also good (and on the web you also get uncertainty in the 21 day forecast https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/Troms%C3%B8/Troms%C3%B8 https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/T...). Local weather services shouldn't be overlooked (and they're "free"... save for taxes!).
  - mr_mitm 8mo ago
    WarnWetter for Germany. Costs a symbolic 1 Euro for dumb reasons, but I think it's easily worth it.
  - k4rli 8mo ago
    yr.no tends to be most accurate for Scandi+Baltics somehow pretty often. Ventusky has the best app experience in Android with many different layers like wind, precipitation, air quality and many more. Can only recommend this as well.
  - fastasucan 8mo ago
    Yes! They are much better. Yr has a great API as well.
Aldipower 8mo ago
I used to use DarkSky for the "history data" for my platform. Querying weather for certain points in the past at certain locations. DarkSky was great for that until they were bought by Apple. Now I am using VisualCrossing for historical data. Hope Acme plans to do historical data too. But if it is US only then it is a no-go anyway.
rcarmo 8mo ago
I am going to chalk this up as another datapoint in the "Apple cannot retain talent" chart. I don't know what the heck they are doing, but everyone they've acquired seems to leave as soon as they can instead of staying.
- gregoriol 8mo ago
  I'd love to see some stats on this: people leaving to start something new (be it Apple or any other acquiring company) might be over-represent because there is not much news about people staying in their job
- mattlondon 8mo ago
  Leave as soon as you can, along with millions and millions in cash that you got from the sale? Who wouldn't?! Why would you continue working for "the man" when you have FU-money?
  - chickensong 8mo ago
    Should probably quit and sell the same thing again with a different chart because FU money isn't enough. The price is reasonable I guess, but also, you can just get weather for free? IDK...
marbletiles 8mo ago
This team really have been thinking about weather a lot, and it makes me very curious about what they’ve created this time. It’s that depth of thought and expertise that feels missing from most of the vibe-coded launches we’ve seen recently. I actually wouldn’t mind if Acme had vibe coded parts, but I bet they didn’t.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > it makes me very curious about what they’ve created this time The rainbow and sunset alerts are really cool ideas. I'm now realising that a simple tie-in to astronomical phenomena could prompt a useful notificationa around it e.g. being worth going stargazing that night. I ski–learning that the near-term forecasts just changed would help me change my schedule the day before versus trying and failing the morning of.
- hypercube33 8mo ago
  I'm almost shocked we don't have a large weather model instead of a language model. Seems right up the alley. Also I don't get what happened but I think it was AccuWeather or weather underground in the early 2000s where it was to the minute accurate and it seems like it's gotten worse since everywhere.
  - danpalmer 8mo ago
    I think Google's weather models could be called LWMs. They're doing interesting research in this space.
  - counters 8mo ago
    > I'm almost shocked we don't have a large weather model instead of a language model. Seems right up the alley. We do have such models. A bunch of them actually: - Google DeepMind's "WeatherNext2" - Microsoft's Aurora - NVIDIA's FourCastNet-3 + Atlas + Climate-in-a-Bottle - ECMWF's AIFS ... The list goes on. Plenty of small startups have repeated the recipe for building these types of models with their own architectural twist, too.
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imarkphillips 8mo ago
How about reporting on yesterday's weather? Its hard to plan a walk in the forest today if I dont know how much it rained yesterday.
- NoboruWataya 8mo ago
  I'm having this problem right now, trying to plan some nice long walks out of the city but it's been raining a lot lately. I'd love some kind of map of flooding/muddy conditions, but I don't think it would be feasible without a massive effort (as whether an area is prone to flooding or turning into a mudbath after rain depends on a lot of factors).
- kristopolous 8mo ago
  mentioned this elsewhere, but https://zoom.earth/ https://zoom.earth/ handles that ... (I've got nothing to do with them btw... I just think it's good)
- mlrtime 8mo ago
  Weather history sounds like a awesome feature. Sort of like a farmers almanac built into a modern weather app?
  - scratchyone 8mo ago
    CARROT has this and it’s amazing! You can “time travel” back as far as you want. Absurdly far, even. I can tell you that it was 20 degrees in my town on Jan 1st, 1940.
  - tshaddox 8mo ago
    Carrot Weather’s most expensive subscriptions include 30-day history.
- bichiliad 8mo ago
  In the app, you can swipe backwards in time and see the reports and data for yesterday.
- Leftium 8mo ago
mattlondon 8mo ago
Interested, but no android app and apparently US only? Can we update the title?
imiric 8mo ago
How are weather apps still relevant, let alone profitable enough to build a company around? This problem has been solved years ago. All the app needs to do is hook up to one or more data providers, and show some stats and pretty graphs. It's essentially a read-only frontend to an API. There are plenty of options to choose from on every platform, including not using an app at all. The features this ad promotes all seem like solutions to nonexistent problems. "Alternate possible futures" don't give me any more confidence in the forecast—it just shows that it's not reliable, which everyone should know already. "Community reports" just add another layer of uncertainty. How can I trust that someone's report is valid or up-to-date, or that it applies to my area? Maps are nice and visually interesting, but this is not exactly novel. Notifications? No thanks. A weather app "should be fun"? Huge no thanks. Privacy and trust? Why do you collect any data?? Unbelievable.
- cryptoz 8mo ago
  > Why do you collect any data?? There are like, billions of internet-connected barometers in the world that are not used in weather models. I don’t know if Acme has any of that in mind, but there is plenty of good reason for a weather app to collect data from phones. I know @counters may disagree with me, but I believe there are opportunities to improve short term forecast accuracy using data collected from phones. Also, pretty much every day, all the apps and all the sites will tell me the incorrect current conditions at my location, much less the forecast. It’s 2026 damnit. Why doesn’t my phone know what the weather is outside right now? I haven’t got the app yet, but I plan on it (gotta upgrade iOS first I think). Acme seems to have a lot of ideas I agree with, so, definitely following this. One more thing. Weather apps have not been “solved”. Not even close. They all suck, there’s billions in untapped opportunity, and a stale existing market of bad solutions. People die all the time from severe weather. There is so much more work to be done in forecast accuracy and communication.
  - imiric 8mo ago
    > I believe there are opportunities to improve short term forecast accuracy using data collected from phones. Alright, fair point. That could be a reasonable use case. But judging by their advertised "Community reports" feature, Acme doesn't seem to be doing this. And even if they did, this feature should be opt-in, and their privacy policy should only apply for those users. > Also, pretty much every day, all the apps and all the sites will tell me the incorrect current conditions at my location, much less the forecast. It’s 2026 damnit. Why doesn’t my phone know what the weather is outside right now? Have you tried looking out the window? What do you need hyper-local and minute-accurate forecasts for? If you need to know accurate current conditions get a thermometer and barometer. If you want it on your smartphone, then the app could show you live readings from your device, without sending the data anywhere. Weather forecasts have always been an inexact science, and likely always will be. Our models have gotten better over time, and at this point I think that they're good enough. I only need to know the general temperature and likelihood of certain weather events a few days in advance, at most. If there's a chance of rain, I carry an umbrella just in case. If it's going to be cold, I pack a jacket. Highly accurate weather prediction doesn't solve any practical problem for the average person. Hyping it up like it does only serves as marketing for companies that want to build a profitable business around it.
mittermayr 8mo ago
Smells heavily like the Wunderlist approach, just re-do and re-sell the same thing over and over.
greatgib 8mo ago
We don't care about a Weather app. Very easy to do and there are millions of it. What is missing is good freely accessible data /api for weather info. Most free one are disappearing and frustratingly in most countries, the weather agency you pay with your tax will not provide it for you.
- allddd 8mo ago
  Weather agencies funded by taxes should make their data available to everyone, since it’s the public that finances them. Luckily, that’s already the case where I live, but when I travel I have to rely on global sources like Open-Meteo, which are usually less accurate than local ones. Another open (and global) alternative would be great.
- estearum 8mo ago
  I care about a weather app and since Dark Sky disappeared there has been nothing even remotely close to it in usefulness, FOSS or otherwise.
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- skadamat 8mo ago
  Speak for yourself :) Weather data is already freely available. I want something that integrates into my life very minimally and just gives me the information I need when I need it. Most weather apps fail at this.
- wlonkly 8mo ago
  I care! I have to cross-reference multiple apps to get a good detailed forecast, a "minutecast" of precipitation, and Canadian humidex and windchill numbers. I haven't tried this one yet because I'm a little confused why it didn't offer me a free trial, but if it gives me all of that then I am sold.
  - Sgt_Apone 8mo ago
    I think it’s a bug for Canadian users as it doesn’t offer me a trial either. Or they just don’t do trials here.
rotbart 8mo ago
I can't download it, as it appears to be US only. Based on the screenshots, without 'feels like' support throughout the forecast (not just for current conditions) it wouldn't be useful where I live.
- khalic 8mo ago
  Never understood using that metric, doesn’t temp and wind give you enough info? Genuine question
  - enraged_camel 8mo ago
    The "feels like" metric is more closely tied to human stress and safety than raw temperature. In cold weather (wind chill), wind strips away the thin warm layer of air next to your skin, so you lose heat faster. Hence, "feels colder". In hot weather (heat index), humidity slows sweat evaporation, so your body can't cool itself as effectively. Hence, "feels hotter". So it's a lot more useful for decision-making (like what to wear, weather it is safe to run/hike, how much water you need, etc.) than the plain temperature.
    - khalic 8mo ago
      thx for the perspective!
    - Wowfunhappy 8mo ago
      Just to add further color: I’m a teacher, and at my school, we use the “feels like” temperature to decide whether to send kids outside for recess. Without that metric, we’d need to either ignore the wind chill, create our own formula, or leave it up to the judgement of the individual teacher running recess that day. Much better to have a number.
      - khalic 8mo ago
        That makes sense, enough to do keeping them alive without the field heuristics
kristopolous 8mo ago
Check out zoom.earth, found it recently. They have an app too. https://zoom.earth/ https://zoom.earth/ Apparently it's by https://neave.com/ https://neave.com/ who looks like an indy developer out of london (according to this: https://neave.com/legal/privacy/ https://neave.com/legal/privacy/) Also check https://earth.nullschool.net/ https://earth.nullschool.net/ by https://github.com/cambecc https://github.com/cambecc
- user3939382 8mo ago
  Neave has been around forever they’re great
- kaizenb 8mo ago
  Good one thanks.
allddd 8mo ago
If a weather app is going to be truly useful, it usually needs a lot of permissions, like access to your location all the time, notifications, etc., and I don’t feel comfortable giving a proprietary app that kind of access, especially when there are great FOSS alternatives.
ajdude 8mo ago
> Fifteen years ago, we started work on the Dark Sky weather app. I will never forgive them for selling out to Apple. Dark sky was the greatest weather app I've ever used, it had features such as considering the pressure of the atmosphere when predicting rain using crowd sourced phones, and it was the only app I've ever used that was as accurate as it was during a time when my job relied on quickly leaving the office and running across town multiple times a day. it was sad watching the API get killed off but even worse was that a lot of the features that dark sky had never really made it into Apple weather, and the rain predictions at Apple Weather had were never as accurate as dark sky. There were several times where it was actively raining and Apple weather never even knew. Dark sky always knew. Nope nope nope fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, I'm not touching this with 39 1/2 foot pole.
- IgorPartola 8mo ago
  Exactly my sentiment. Will they sell out to Google or Microsoft this time?
- estearum 8mo ago
  Assume they do sell out again in a year or 5. Why exactly should you willingly choose to have worse weather predictions between here and there? A weather app isn't something with lock-in or dependencies where using a maybe-not-permanent-solution is going to hamstring you if it disappears.
bichiliad 8mo ago
I have always had a ton of respect for the Dark Sky devs. I love the work that goes into designing interfaces that make sense of complex datasets intuitively, and I feel like Dark Sky was a textbook example. I’m genuinely really excited to try this out.
- skadamat 8mo ago
  Couldn't agree more! This is why I wrote the Eulogy for Dark Sky: https://nightingaledvs.com/dark-sky-weather-data-viz/ https://nightingaledvs.com/dark-sky-weather-data-viz/
  - bichiliad 8mo ago
    I read this a bit ago and really enjoying it! It felt like it did justice to the effort that people wouldn't appreciate otherwise.
  - vollmarj 8mo ago
    I reference this often! Thanks for writing it.
- SoftTalker 8mo ago
  I agree, Dark Sky was really nicely done. That said, when I want to know the weather I just look out the window, so it's unlikely to be something I would buy.
focusedone 8mo ago
Sweet! Looking forward to the android version. I was slightly bitter when apple yanked the website.
- idatum 8mo ago
  After losing Dark Sky on Android, I discovered Foreca app. Works well in my area in the PNW. One thing I learned is some post processing done by these services are better in some areas than others.
gcanyon 8mo ago
Time for everyone who has posted lamenting how Dark Sky was better (that's me!) to put our money where our mouth is.
be_erik 8mo ago
Ha, this looks like someone took mine and got a real designer to polish it. https://wthr.cloud https://wthr.cloud
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rvz 8mo ago
> It’s simple: when looking at the landscape of the countless weather apps out there, many of them lovely, we found ourselves feeling unsatisfied. The more we spoke to friends and family, the more we heard that many of them did too. And, of course, we missed those days as a small scrappy shop. > So let’s try this again… At this point, I think that this is just going to get bought out by OpenAI. Won't be totally surprised to see that outcome.
joecool1029 8mo ago
Does anyone know if the subscription can be shared with family?
- joe_hills 8mo ago
  I was looking at the in-app purchases list and it doesn't explicitly have a family-sharing plan like Weather Line does. This looks great and I'd definitely consider switching my family Weather Line plan over to an Acme Weather family plan if it becomes possible.
- JasonHarrison 8mo ago
  I am on the free trial and it did not extend to my family. Unsure whether this will change when the trial converts to a paid subscription.
- Aboutplants 8mo ago
  Yes please devs, make this subscription shareable with family
j45 8mo ago
it would be great to look up weather on their website too not just the app like other tools.
naet 8mo ago
The app looks beautiful and the multi forecast model makes a lot of sense. I don't think I am ready to pay an annual subscription for it. Feels like a big ask for the weather when there are so many other free sources to get a forecast. But I appreciate that the app was made with real intention and wish I you success with it.
readsdiggdaily 8mo ago
Brzzy Weather is here and available all over the world. Enter "Monkey" in the secret code section and get lifetime access. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/brzzy-weather-radar-alerts/id6670187343 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/brzzy-weather-radar-alerts/id6...
Exuma 8mo ago
Awesome - do you offer a small widget for the lock screen?
MuEta 8mo ago
This app looks great! Only thing I can't find is snow / rain accumulation, which is extremely important when living in the mountains.
danpalmer 8mo ago
Did DarkSky ever make it out of the US? I know it was US only for a long time, as it seems this is. Even recently Apple Weather was hilariously bad in Australia. I was always asking my partner for the weather because her Pixel weather app was reasonably reliable and Apple Weather was always wrong. Weather forecasts are such a localised issue. I've never seen an app that does well globally.
- krelas 8mo ago
  Just get the BOM app, nothing else comes close for accurate weather here.
  - danpalmer 8mo ago
    I've never had a good forecast from the BOM directly. I'm sure everyone is using their data in some form, but the BOM itself seems awful, unless perhaps you have the nostalgia for it?
bsimpson 8mo ago
Anyone trying it out in NYC? Curious to know what it expects of tomorrow's potential blizzard. Add me to the list of people not excited to pay a subscription to get Dark Sky back, but also bummed I can't yet try it on Android.
- counters 8mo ago
  It would just be regurgitating information from numerical forecast models. If you're in the Northeast and have questions about the significant winter storm that is impending, please check out the National Weather Service's forecast and decision support materials for your community on www.weather.gov.
aucisson_masque 8mo ago
> $25/year subscription I don't get it, is there even a market ? People get free and quite accurate weather information from Google and others. I don't think that a few radar view and probability prediction are worth that amount of money. But then, how much was dark sky ? And did it succeed ? Getting bought by apple is a kind of success but I mean success as in profitability.
- counters 8mo ago
  There's probably an initial "nostalgia for DarkSky" market. But beyond that? Nope.
- nephihaha 8mo ago
  "Quite accurate" I've been hearing snow predictions for two months now. We have had one or two light dustings which didn't lie. I also find most predictions are mostly useless beyond three days.
- deepfriedbits 8mo ago
  I'm not sure if the price rose later, but I remember getting Dark Sky for a $3.99 one-time payment. Much more palatable than $25/year imo.
  - sigmar 8mo ago
    think it was pay once on iOS and the android dark sky app that came out later was $3/year. So like 733% increase.
- Analemma_ 8mo ago
  The underlying data sources are not free, weather data providers charge per API request. Stock weather apps built into the OS eat this cost for you, but third-party apps can't do that, they either have to show ads (ugh) or have a subscription. Of the $2.08/month this works out to, I don't know how much the devs have left for themselves after the weather API and Apple's 30% cut, but I can't imagine it's much. I don't think you're getting ripped off here.
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Woodrow503 8mo ago
Amazing. Just downloaded and will happily pay the $25 if this operates anywhere close to what dark sky was before the buyout. We’ve got some interesting weather on the horizon so this should be a good test. Now they just need to offer an Apple Watch complication like this: https://imgur.com/oTG7MH6 https://imgur.com/oTG7MH6 Still bothers me that apple weather doesn’t offer this.
renewiltord 8mo ago
$25/yr for accurate weather predictions is valuable but I don’t want app. I want api usage. Weather use for me is through Claw-type background agent that notifies me prior to events.
LeoPanthera 8mo ago
I wish weather apps would tell you what models they're using, and the source of their data. That's why I subscribe to Windy, you can see what model they're using, and pick between a variety of them.
cawksuwcka 8mo ago
i live weather people. “hey, how’s the weather?.” click.
npodbielski 8mo ago
Not available on Android. They are looking for Android Dev so I guess it is coming.
elAhmo 8mo ago
No one should be using apps made by these guys after their sellout to Apple. Leaving Apple now to start another weather app is quite disingenuous.
clashmeifyoucan 8mo ago
I enjoyed the part about factoring in unpredictability. One of my peeves with weather apps had been that they do switch the forecast on the fly if it is inaccurate, and I have joked before that what we need is a derivative weather app accountability app that tells you how often a weather app corrects itself. So I'm excited to see if Acme makes a meaningful difference!
PlunderBunny 8mo ago
If a weather app had access to your photos in real time (I know - stay with me here) it could deduce the local weather from what it can see in the sky in your photos, essentially crowd sourcing real-time weather updates with no effort from users.

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basicoperation 8mo ago

The site doesn’t make it clear, but it’s not available worldwide. The App Store doesn’t tell you where exactly it is available, but it’s not in the UK. This surprised me seeing as one of the example images shows Europe, including the south coast of Britain.

pzmarzly 8mo ago
From website's FAQ: Acme is currently available in the United States (including Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico) and Canada.
esoltys 8mo ago
In Canada it's $35/yr and I don't see any indication of the 2-week trial that's mentioned on their website. Probably can still cancel within two weeks, but it simply has a Subscribe button before you can do anything.

qkc3p3Jbf4 8mo ago

Looks lovely. I was keen to try this but US and Canada only unfortunately. Also: subscription fatigue is real. Of course I understand that fetching weather data isn’t free etc. (even though I’m intrigued by their homegrown forecast model) but I’ve already got 10+ subscriptions on iOS and I’m not sure if I’ve got the stomach for another. Apple’s weather app is finally good though since the Dark Sky acquisition.

RebeccaTheDev 8mo ago
> Also: subscription fatigue is real. This. I just went and cancelled a bunch of vampire subscriptions that had accrued in my life (both in and out of the Apple ecosystem) and ended up saving somewhere in the range of $60 a month. I get that people have bills to pay and building and maintaining software costs money, but when everyone wants money from me for every little thing, eventually I have to decide who gets what cut from an increasingly limited sized pie. Apps like this that, while beautiful, replicate functionality that is "good enough" that I can get for free are the first thing to be cut.
- scoot 8mo ago
  Going even further off topic, one of the things I love with Apple is having all your subscriptions in one place, and being able to cancel them easily. The few zombie subscriptions I've had have all existed outside of the App store, one that I didn't even sign up for (looking at you Masterclass). I bought a one year gift subscription for someone else, and because it came with a "free" subscription for me (that I didn't use), I git hit with annual renewals until I noticed it on my credit card statement and cancelled. Yes, I should check those more frequently, but who has time for that? It rankles that you can can cancel a free trial before it's over with every app exept Apple's. I like the feature, but the double standard grates.

JensenTorp 8mo ago

Subscription app in 2026, no thanks.

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
Your phone comes with a free weather app. There are thousands more free apps for folks who don’t mind ads. Weather requires ongoing costs. It’s always going to need to be maintained because meteorological models are evolving. Anything beyond a viewport will need to track and metabolize those changes.
- imiric 8mo ago
  > Weather requires ongoing costs. I strongly doubt that this company runs their own weather stations or meteorological models. Their only recurring cost is API access to the companies that provide weather data, a negligible amount of IT infrastructure, and their employees. Considering that there are many free weather APIs, and that a polished frontend can be built by a single person, what exactly are the overheads? To be fair, I'm not criticizing the subscription model. I think it makes sense for software that needs to be continually maintained. But a weather app shouldn't have large maintenance costs that couldn't be covered by a one-time payment. A big reason why companies love the Apple ecosystem is because subscriptions have been normalized, and users are used to paying them regardless if the model actually makes sense for the type of software.
  - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
    > strongly doubt that this company runs their own weather stations or meteorological models. Their only recurring cost is API access to the companies that provide weather data No. But I'd suspect a tabula rasa approach to weather–particularly given it hasn't been rolled out globally in one go–incorporates satellite data, local measurements, et cetera. Again, that may not take constant subscriprtion. But it does take constant expert monitoring and awareness. > Considering that there are many free weather APIs If you're a glorified viewport into these APIs' data, you may be able to stick with their most-static data and fire and forget. In reality, what those outputs mean change as the models and techniques evolve. There are new APIs with new data constantly coming out, and they're often adding connectors. > a weather app shouldn't have large maintenance costs that couldn't be covered by a one-time payment The only way I see this working is if the user is explicitly aware the app can break at any time if one of the APIs change anything, which they often do, and that this may not cause any obvious failures, just a decay in the app's accuracy or usefulness.

Lord_Zero 8mo ago

Is there really that much money in making a weather app where you can quit your job at apple and do that?

cryptoz 8mo ago
They sold their last weather app to Apple for like, tens of millions or something. These aren’t some random Apple employees. Also, it seems a common misunderstanding about some weather apps: yes, most of them just package free data and steal your privacy, but some are really much more than a “weather app”. Some are attempts at building next-generation weather forecast models, which if successful are of course worth billions. I’ve spent a lot of time building innovative weather apps, most of my career actually. And it’s always shocking to me when people say I’m wasting time or wasting my life or look at me like, “really? You’re dedicating your life to weather apps?!” No dawg, I’m trying to improve short term forecasts to save life and property from severe events at scale! I’m not sure what the Acme end goal is, but surely this isn’t just a “weather app”.
- Galanwe 8mo ago
  > I’m trying [...] to save life and property from severe events at scale Tell me you work in Silicon Valley without telling me you work in silicon Valley. Sorry but I couldn't resist. There is something in US startup mentality where you can't just "create an app and make a living", you have to be on a grand mission to save the world. That may be normal out there, but for the rest of the world it just seems... Get back to earth man :-)
  - dan00 8mo ago
    It‘s exactly the kind of words that venture capital wants to here.
  - 3rodents 8mo ago
    Sure, most of us are doing nothing to help people and are using grandiose language to describe reticulating splines. I don’t think that applies to good weather apps though, a lot of people do die because they are unaware of weather events. I would be very unsurprised to learn that any major weather app has directly saved lives. The U.S is a very… weatherful place.

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jwr 8mo ago

Doesn't seem to be available in the EU. Yet another US-only app with US-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to.

lionkor 8mo ago
I'm in Germany and I really enjoy the Norwegian weather app YR, it's nice and simple and very clean.
ca6d8815 8mo ago
Try your local weather app. Here in Switzerland the MeteoSwiss app is absolutely wonderful, and has all these main features: - Uncertainty bands in the forecast (the bands are a better UX than more lines imo) - User-supplied reports - Many many many different maps (snow / cloud / wind / sunshine / air quality / etc) - Alerts (not notifications, but real alerts to watch out for something) Plus many more other features. I found Yr in Norway also good (and on the web you also get uncertainty in the 21 day forecast https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/Troms%C3%B8/Troms%C3%B8 https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/T...). Local weather services shouldn't be overlooked (and they're "free"... save for taxes!).
- mr_mitm 8mo ago
  WarnWetter for Germany. Costs a symbolic 1 Euro for dumb reasons, but I think it's easily worth it.
- k4rli 8mo ago
  yr.no tends to be most accurate for Scandi+Baltics somehow pretty often. Ventusky has the best app experience in Android with many different layers like wind, precipitation, air quality and many more. Can only recommend this as well.
- fastasucan 8mo ago
  Yes! They are much better. Yr has a great API as well.

Aldipower 8mo ago

I used to use DarkSky for the "history data" for my platform. Querying weather for certain points in the past at certain locations. DarkSky was great for that until they were bought by Apple. Now I am using VisualCrossing for historical data. Hope Acme plans to do historical data too. But if it is US only then it is a no-go anyway.

rcarmo 8mo ago

I am going to chalk this up as another datapoint in the "Apple cannot retain talent" chart. I don't know what the heck they are doing, but everyone they've acquired seems to leave as soon as they can instead of staying.

gregoriol 8mo ago
I'd love to see some stats on this: people leaving to start something new (be it Apple or any other acquiring company) might be over-represent because there is not much news about people staying in their job
mattlondon 8mo ago
Leave as soon as you can, along with millions and millions in cash that you got from the sale? Who wouldn't?! Why would you continue working for "the man" when you have FU-money?
- chickensong 8mo ago
  Should probably quit and sell the same thing again with a different chart because FU money isn't enough. The price is reasonable I guess, but also, you can just get weather for free? IDK...

marbletiles 8mo ago

This team really have been thinking about weather a lot, and it makes me very curious about what they’ve created this time. It’s that depth of thought and expertise that feels missing from most of the vibe-coded launches we’ve seen recently. I actually wouldn’t mind if Acme had vibe coded parts, but I bet they didn’t.

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> it makes me very curious about what they’ve created this time The rainbow and sunset alerts are really cool ideas. I'm now realising that a simple tie-in to astronomical phenomena could prompt a useful notificationa around it e.g. being worth going stargazing that night. I ski–learning that the near-term forecasts just changed would help me change my schedule the day before versus trying and failing the morning of.
hypercube33 8mo ago
I'm almost shocked we don't have a large weather model instead of a language model. Seems right up the alley. Also I don't get what happened but I think it was AccuWeather or weather underground in the early 2000s where it was to the minute accurate and it seems like it's gotten worse since everywhere.
- danpalmer 8mo ago
  I think Google's weather models could be called LWMs. They're doing interesting research in this space.
- counters 8mo ago
  > I'm almost shocked we don't have a large weather model instead of a language model. Seems right up the alley. We do have such models. A bunch of them actually: - Google DeepMind's "WeatherNext2" - Microsoft's Aurora - NVIDIA's FourCastNet-3 + Atlas + Climate-in-a-Bottle - ECMWF's AIFS ... The list goes on. Plenty of small startups have repeated the recipe for building these types of models with their own architectural twist, too.
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imarkphillips 8mo ago

How about reporting on yesterday's weather? Its hard to plan a walk in the forest today if I dont know how much it rained yesterday.

NoboruWataya 8mo ago
I'm having this problem right now, trying to plan some nice long walks out of the city but it's been raining a lot lately. I'd love some kind of map of flooding/muddy conditions, but I don't think it would be feasible without a massive effort (as whether an area is prone to flooding or turning into a mudbath after rain depends on a lot of factors).
kristopolous 8mo ago
mentioned this elsewhere, but https://zoom.earth/ https://zoom.earth/ handles that ... (I've got nothing to do with them btw... I just think it's good)
mlrtime 8mo ago
Weather history sounds like a awesome feature. Sort of like a farmers almanac built into a modern weather app?
- scratchyone 8mo ago
  CARROT has this and it’s amazing! You can “time travel” back as far as you want. Absurdly far, even. I can tell you that it was 20 degrees in my town on Jan 1st, 1940.
- tshaddox 8mo ago
  Carrot Weather’s most expensive subscriptions include 30-day history.
bichiliad 8mo ago
In the app, you can swipe backwards in time and see the reports and data for yesterday.
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mattlondon 8mo ago

Interested, but no android app and apparently US only? Can we update the title?

imiric 8mo ago

How are weather apps still relevant, let alone profitable enough to build a company around? This problem has been solved years ago. All the app needs to do is hook up to one or more data providers, and show some stats and pretty graphs. It's essentially a read-only frontend to an API. There are plenty of options to choose from on every platform, including not using an app at all. The features this ad promotes all seem like solutions to nonexistent problems. "Alternate possible futures" don't give me any more confidence in the forecast—it just shows that it's not reliable, which everyone should know already. "Community reports" just add another layer of uncertainty. How can I trust that someone's report is valid or up-to-date, or that it applies to my area? Maps are nice and visually interesting, but this is not exactly novel. Notifications? No thanks. A weather app "should be fun"? Huge no thanks. Privacy and trust? Why do you collect any data?? Unbelievable.

cryptoz 8mo ago
> Why do you collect any data?? There are like, billions of internet-connected barometers in the world that are not used in weather models. I don’t know if Acme has any of that in mind, but there is plenty of good reason for a weather app to collect data from phones. I know @counters may disagree with me, but I believe there are opportunities to improve short term forecast accuracy using data collected from phones. Also, pretty much every day, all the apps and all the sites will tell me the incorrect current conditions at my location, much less the forecast. It’s 2026 damnit. Why doesn’t my phone know what the weather is outside right now? I haven’t got the app yet, but I plan on it (gotta upgrade iOS first I think). Acme seems to have a lot of ideas I agree with, so, definitely following this. One more thing. Weather apps have not been “solved”. Not even close. They all suck, there’s billions in untapped opportunity, and a stale existing market of bad solutions. People die all the time from severe weather. There is so much more work to be done in forecast accuracy and communication.
- imiric 8mo ago
  > I believe there are opportunities to improve short term forecast accuracy using data collected from phones. Alright, fair point. That could be a reasonable use case. But judging by their advertised "Community reports" feature, Acme doesn't seem to be doing this. And even if they did, this feature should be opt-in, and their privacy policy should only apply for those users. > Also, pretty much every day, all the apps and all the sites will tell me the incorrect current conditions at my location, much less the forecast. It’s 2026 damnit. Why doesn’t my phone know what the weather is outside right now? Have you tried looking out the window? What do you need hyper-local and minute-accurate forecasts for? If you need to know accurate current conditions get a thermometer and barometer. If you want it on your smartphone, then the app could show you live readings from your device, without sending the data anywhere. Weather forecasts have always been an inexact science, and likely always will be. Our models have gotten better over time, and at this point I think that they're good enough. I only need to know the general temperature and likelihood of certain weather events a few days in advance, at most. If there's a chance of rain, I carry an umbrella just in case. If it's going to be cold, I pack a jacket. Highly accurate weather prediction doesn't solve any practical problem for the average person. Hyping it up like it does only serves as marketing for companies that want to build a profitable business around it.

mittermayr 8mo ago

Smells heavily like the Wunderlist approach, just re-do and re-sell the same thing over and over.

greatgib 8mo ago

We don't care about a Weather app. Very easy to do and there are millions of it. What is missing is good freely accessible data /api for weather info. Most free one are disappearing and frustratingly in most countries, the weather agency you pay with your tax will not provide it for you.

allddd 8mo ago
Weather agencies funded by taxes should make their data available to everyone, since it’s the public that finances them. Luckily, that’s already the case where I live, but when I travel I have to rely on global sources like Open-Meteo, which are usually less accurate than local ones. Another open (and global) alternative would be great.
estearum 8mo ago
I care about a weather app and since Dark Sky disappeared there has been nothing even remotely close to it in usefulness, FOSS or otherwise.
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skadamat 8mo ago
Speak for yourself :) Weather data is already freely available. I want something that integrates into my life very minimally and just gives me the information I need when I need it. Most weather apps fail at this.
wlonkly 8mo ago
I care! I have to cross-reference multiple apps to get a good detailed forecast, a "minutecast" of precipitation, and Canadian humidex and windchill numbers. I haven't tried this one yet because I'm a little confused why it didn't offer me a free trial, but if it gives me all of that then I am sold.
- Sgt_Apone 8mo ago
  I think it’s a bug for Canadian users as it doesn’t offer me a trial either. Or they just don’t do trials here.

rotbart 8mo ago

I can't download it, as it appears to be US only. Based on the screenshots, without 'feels like' support throughout the forecast (not just for current conditions) it wouldn't be useful where I live.

khalic 8mo ago
Never understood using that metric, doesn’t temp and wind give you enough info? Genuine question
- enraged_camel 8mo ago
  The "feels like" metric is more closely tied to human stress and safety than raw temperature. In cold weather (wind chill), wind strips away the thin warm layer of air next to your skin, so you lose heat faster. Hence, "feels colder". In hot weather (heat index), humidity slows sweat evaporation, so your body can't cool itself as effectively. Hence, "feels hotter". So it's a lot more useful for decision-making (like what to wear, weather it is safe to run/hike, how much water you need, etc.) than the plain temperature.
  - khalic 8mo ago
    thx for the perspective!
  - Wowfunhappy 8mo ago
    Just to add further color: I’m a teacher, and at my school, we use the “feels like” temperature to decide whether to send kids outside for recess. Without that metric, we’d need to either ignore the wind chill, create our own formula, or leave it up to the judgement of the individual teacher running recess that day. Much better to have a number.
    - khalic 8mo ago
      That makes sense, enough to do keeping them alive without the field heuristics

kristopolous 8mo ago

Check out zoom.earth, found it recently. They have an app too. https://zoom.earth/ https://zoom.earth/ Apparently it's by https://neave.com/ https://neave.com/ who looks like an indy developer out of london (according to this: https://neave.com/legal/privacy/ https://neave.com/legal/privacy/) Also check https://earth.nullschool.net/ https://earth.nullschool.net/ by https://github.com/cambecc https://github.com/cambecc

user3939382 8mo ago
Neave has been around forever they’re great
kaizenb 8mo ago
Good one thanks.

allddd 8mo ago

If a weather app is going to be truly useful, it usually needs a lot of permissions, like access to your location all the time, notifications, etc., and I don’t feel comfortable giving a proprietary app that kind of access, especially when there are great FOSS alternatives.

ajdude 8mo ago

> Fifteen years ago, we started work on the Dark Sky weather app. I will never forgive them for selling out to Apple. Dark sky was the greatest weather app I've ever used, it had features such as considering the pressure of the atmosphere when predicting rain using crowd sourced phones, and it was the only app I've ever used that was as accurate as it was during a time when my job relied on quickly leaving the office and running across town multiple times a day. it was sad watching the API get killed off but even worse was that a lot of the features that dark sky had never really made it into Apple weather, and the rain predictions at Apple Weather had were never as accurate as dark sky. There were several times where it was actively raining and Apple weather never even knew. Dark sky always knew. Nope nope nope fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, I'm not touching this with 39 1/2 foot pole.

IgorPartola 8mo ago
Exactly my sentiment. Will they sell out to Google or Microsoft this time?
estearum 8mo ago
Assume they do sell out again in a year or 5. Why exactly should you willingly choose to have worse weather predictions between here and there? A weather app isn't something with lock-in or dependencies where using a maybe-not-permanent-solution is going to hamstring you if it disappears.

bichiliad 8mo ago

I have always had a ton of respect for the Dark Sky devs. I love the work that goes into designing interfaces that make sense of complex datasets intuitively, and I feel like Dark Sky was a textbook example. I’m genuinely really excited to try this out.

skadamat 8mo ago
Couldn't agree more! This is why I wrote the Eulogy for Dark Sky: https://nightingaledvs.com/dark-sky-weather-data-viz/ https://nightingaledvs.com/dark-sky-weather-data-viz/
- bichiliad 8mo ago
  I read this a bit ago and really enjoying it! It felt like it did justice to the effort that people wouldn't appreciate otherwise.
- vollmarj 8mo ago
  I reference this often! Thanks for writing it.
SoftTalker 8mo ago
I agree, Dark Sky was really nicely done. That said, when I want to know the weather I just look out the window, so it's unlikely to be something I would buy.

focusedone 8mo ago

Sweet! Looking forward to the android version. I was slightly bitter when apple yanked the website.

idatum 8mo ago
After losing Dark Sky on Android, I discovered Foreca app. Works well in my area in the PNW. One thing I learned is some post processing done by these services are better in some areas than others.

gcanyon 8mo ago

Time for everyone who has posted lamenting how Dark Sky was better (that's me!) to put our money where our mouth is.

be_erik 8mo ago

Ha, this looks like someone took mine and got a real designer to polish it. https://wthr.cloud https://wthr.cloud

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rvz 8mo ago

> It’s simple: when looking at the landscape of the countless weather apps out there, many of them lovely, we found ourselves feeling unsatisfied. The more we spoke to friends and family, the more we heard that many of them did too. And, of course, we missed those days as a small scrappy shop. > So let’s try this again… At this point, I think that this is just going to get bought out by OpenAI. Won't be totally surprised to see that outcome.

joecool1029 8mo ago

Does anyone know if the subscription can be shared with family?

joe_hills 8mo ago
I was looking at the in-app purchases list and it doesn't explicitly have a family-sharing plan like Weather Line does. This looks great and I'd definitely consider switching my family Weather Line plan over to an Acme Weather family plan if it becomes possible.
JasonHarrison 8mo ago
I am on the free trial and it did not extend to my family. Unsure whether this will change when the trial converts to a paid subscription.
Aboutplants 8mo ago
Yes please devs, make this subscription shareable with family

j45 8mo ago

it would be great to look up weather on their website too not just the app like other tools.

naet 8mo ago

The app looks beautiful and the multi forecast model makes a lot of sense. I don't think I am ready to pay an annual subscription for it. Feels like a big ask for the weather when there are so many other free sources to get a forecast. But I appreciate that the app was made with real intention and wish I you success with it.

readsdiggdaily 8mo ago

Brzzy Weather is here and available all over the world. Enter "Monkey" in the secret code section and get lifetime access. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/brzzy-weather-radar-alerts/id6670187343 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/brzzy-weather-radar-alerts/id6...

Exuma 8mo ago

Awesome - do you offer a small widget for the lock screen?

MuEta 8mo ago

This app looks great! Only thing I can't find is snow / rain accumulation, which is extremely important when living in the mountains.

danpalmer 8mo ago

Did DarkSky ever make it out of the US? I know it was US only for a long time, as it seems this is. Even recently Apple Weather was hilariously bad in Australia. I was always asking my partner for the weather because her Pixel weather app was reasonably reliable and Apple Weather was always wrong. Weather forecasts are such a localised issue. I've never seen an app that does well globally.

krelas 8mo ago
Just get the BOM app, nothing else comes close for accurate weather here.
- danpalmer 8mo ago
  I've never had a good forecast from the BOM directly. I'm sure everyone is using their data in some form, but the BOM itself seems awful, unless perhaps you have the nostalgia for it?

bsimpson 8mo ago

Anyone trying it out in NYC? Curious to know what it expects of tomorrow's potential blizzard. Add me to the list of people not excited to pay a subscription to get Dark Sky back, but also bummed I can't yet try it on Android.

counters 8mo ago
It would just be regurgitating information from numerical forecast models. If you're in the Northeast and have questions about the significant winter storm that is impending, please check out the National Weather Service's forecast and decision support materials for your community on www.weather.gov.

aucisson_masque 8mo ago

> $25/year subscription I don't get it, is there even a market ? People get free and quite accurate weather information from Google and others. I don't think that a few radar view and probability prediction are worth that amount of money. But then, how much was dark sky ? And did it succeed ? Getting bought by apple is a kind of success but I mean success as in profitability.

counters 8mo ago
There's probably an initial "nostalgia for DarkSky" market. But beyond that? Nope.
nephihaha 8mo ago
"Quite accurate" I've been hearing snow predictions for two months now. We have had one or two light dustings which didn't lie. I also find most predictions are mostly useless beyond three days.
deepfriedbits 8mo ago
I'm not sure if the price rose later, but I remember getting Dark Sky for a $3.99 one-time payment. Much more palatable than $25/year imo.
- sigmar 8mo ago
  think it was pay once on iOS and the android dark sky app that came out later was $3/year. So like 733% increase.
Analemma_ 8mo ago
The underlying data sources are not free, weather data providers charge per API request. Stock weather apps built into the OS eat this cost for you, but third-party apps can't do that, they either have to show ads (ugh) or have a subscription. Of the $2.08/month this works out to, I don't know how much the devs have left for themselves after the weather API and Apple's 30% cut, but I can't imagine it's much. I don't think you're getting ripped off here.
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Woodrow503 8mo ago

Amazing. Just downloaded and will happily pay the $25 if this operates anywhere close to what dark sky was before the buyout. We’ve got some interesting weather on the horizon so this should be a good test. Now they just need to offer an Apple Watch complication like this: https://imgur.com/oTG7MH6 https://imgur.com/oTG7MH6 Still bothers me that apple weather doesn’t offer this.

renewiltord 8mo ago

$25/yr for accurate weather predictions is valuable but I don’t want app. I want api usage. Weather use for me is through Claw-type background agent that notifies me prior to events.

LeoPanthera 8mo ago

I wish weather apps would tell you what models they're using, and the source of their data. That's why I subscribe to Windy, you can see what model they're using, and pick between a variety of them.

cawksuwcka 8mo ago

i live weather people. “hey, how’s the weather?.” click.

npodbielski 8mo ago

Not available on Android. They are looking for Android Dev so I guess it is coming.

elAhmo 8mo ago

No one should be using apps made by these guys after their sellout to Apple. Leaving Apple now to start another weather app is quite disingenuous.

clashmeifyoucan 8mo ago

I enjoyed the part about factoring in unpredictability. One of my peeves with weather apps had been that they do switch the forecast on the fly if it is inaccurate, and I have joked before that what we need is a derivative weather app accountability app that tells you how often a weather app corrects itself. So I'm excited to see if Acme makes a meaningful difference!

PlunderBunny 8mo ago

If a weather app had access to your photos in real time (I know - stay with me here) it could deduce the local weather from what it can see in the sky in your photos, essentially crowd sourcing real-time weather updates with no effort from users.