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• Kim_Bruning 8mo ago
  Did you notice you can click anywhere in the text and edit it? Something was lost along the way. (Nowadays you need a separate wiki engine on a site to be able to do that)
  • krapp 8mo ago
    Do we know that they didn't have some backend code handing the editing? I don't think a web where every page is globally editable by default would be a good idea, but I can't imagine at all how it would work without a backend, unless all of the changes are just local. But that seems pointless.
    • actionfromafar 8mo ago
      Upload the file when you are done, perhaps?
    • zabzonk 8mo ago
      > But that seems pointless. Making notes for your own consumption?
    • Kim_Bruning 8mo ago
      HTTP has PUT and DELETE for a reason ;-)
    • shakna 8mo ago
      Being able to change stylesheets, disable or enhance various JavaScript scripts, add notes and annotations, and other things, is exactly the idea of a user agent. The user makes a request, and then does whatever they like with the answer. Not just whatever is sensible, but whatever they want to do. If that concept somehow became accepted again... I think the accessible web might well become a solved problem, rather than an endless slog.
      • idiotsecant 8mo ago
        In what way is that not currently possible? All browsers I know of you can edit whatever you want in any page you download
        • shakna 8mo ago
          You'll need to do a bit of work to make it the way it used to be. Editing any text on a page, or having your changes save persistently, needs a bit of a... Framework, to keep things together, rather than being the expected mode of interaction. Sure, I can add a p to the tree. But if I refresh, its gone. I'll probably need plugins to keep my own stylesheets and JS changes around.
      • snigsnog 8mo ago
        >Being able to change stylesheets https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/styl-us/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/styl-us/ >disable or enhance various JavaScript scripts https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/?utm_source=addons.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=search https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tampermonkey/?utm_source=addons.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=search https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tampermonkey/... Yeah you can't directly alter scripts being ran (as far as I know?) but you can usually override/extend behavior and can definitely add your own >add notes and annotations https://cwmonkey.github.io/greasemonkey/make-note/ https://cwmonkey.github.io/greasemonkey/make-note/ (I haven't actually used this one, just first result)
        • shakna 8mo ago
          I'm aware of plugins. But these used to be builtin features. Developers needed to work with them, rather than making it harder and harder to use them to make the users life easiee.
  • karlgkk 8mo ago
    > (Nowadays you need a separate wiki engine on a site to be able to do that) No you don’t. These browser simply PUTs the request and your web server simply edits the document. Versioning is optional, of course.
  • dadoum 8mo ago
    F12, Console, type document.designMode = 'on'
    • wesammikhail 8mo ago
      I had no idea. You just blew my mind
    • dadoum 8mo ago
      (it is slightly different though, as links cannot be followed)
      • _2d30 8mo ago
        F12, Console, type document.designMode = 'off'
      • 1718627440 8mo ago
        In my Firefox installation you can.
    • 1718627440 8mo ago
      Wow.
  • thenthenthen 8mo ago
    The original read/write web