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What purpose is this submission supposed to serve? What kind of discussion around it do you think would be more appropriate?
by tolerance 8mo ago
What purpose is this submission supposed to serve? What kind of discussion around it do you think would be more appropriate?
- garciasn 8mo agoI think it’s incredibly important to have active and engaging conversations about the FCC on HN, regardless of political ideology, because of our shared identity as those deeply involved with tech. We should be openly discussing whether freedom of speech and information is being infringed by governments around the world in ways which can and do infringe upon our world.
- tolerance 8mo agoSo how might a campaign such as this be advanced or advertised in ways that don’t infringe upon Democratic values?
- garciasn 8mo agoIt simply shouldn’t be? Nationalistic and forced religious belief (i.e., which is what the altered Pledge is) are antithetical to the US Constitution and are NOT in the public interest.
- tolerance 8mo agoDo you believe that such a campaign would not exist under a President who is a Democrat? I’m sure it’s easy to assume that these questions aren’t in good faith. Of course I have a point of my own that I could make, but then we’d be arguing over that instead and I’m less interested in trying to speculate better than you than I’m curious about what you think on your own. So there isn’t any way that an administration led by a Democrat would implement such a campaign? You can’t imagine that? If not under an identical premise (viz. the US semiquincentennial) but under some other initiative to instill non-partisan nationalist pride at a time where it is virtually absent?
- JKCalhoun 8mo agoI suppose we'll have to see. Right now we have a Republican administration pushing it.
- mindslight 8mo agoBy an earnest suggestion from an administration that respects the United States, our freedoms, and our institutions. Not an implicit threat from a wannabe dictator who hangs giant pictures of himself up on government buildings to glorify himself, throws vindictive hissy fits when he doesn't get his way, and rambles at length about how he hates most American values.
- tolerance 8mo agoHow could the current administration appropriately suggest—and how could any institution earnestly commemorate—a democracy with all things considered with respect to its present state?
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- mindslight 8mo agoThe fundamental problem is that it can't, because the current administration does not support democracy, which relies on the rule of law. Its leadership style is based on fomenting division to rally true believers, rather than broad-appeal attempts at constructive policy. So appeals to come together to celebrate what we have in common come off as hollow Orwellian doublespeak. The question is basically in the realm of how do you celebrate someone's birthday when their wife just died? Yes, it's the country's 250 birthday, but we're currently going through a very dark period that does not reflect well onto the lofty ideals we take as our country's founding.
- tolerance 8mo agoThank you for your time here.
- mindslight 8mo agoDo you have a constructive point, or are you just doing some vague both sidesism ?