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Many voted for this

by ikiris 8mo ago

Many voted for this

aucisson_masque 8mo ago
These people are not necessary against tariff, they are against paying more for their stuff and having it benefit some middleman because the current government messed up badly. I can otherwise understand how people would agree on paying more for their stuff if it allows their fellow citizens to have a job.
- jacobgkau 8mo ago
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  - Recurecur 8mo ago
    Don’t panic too much yet, there are other legal bases for the tariffs. We’ll see…
  - xorcist 8mo ago
    There are many reasonable ideas for import taxation. But what you describe was not what happened. China fought back with their own tariffs, and you may well have paid less import tax on your Temu knock-offs than you did for some widget made with both higher environmental and labor standards in some western European country.
  - myvoiceismypass 8mo ago
    You are pro thoughtless tariffs against every random country, because of temu ads?
cptroot 8mo ago
Very few people voted for tariffs, specifically. They voted for a promise of a return to a world where they were on top.
- riffraff 8mo ago
  tariff were promised and implemented by Trump in his first mandate too, if you voted for him, you mostly voted for America Great Again Through Tariffs. After the liberation day tariffs were announced, 34% of the people thought they were good. https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article303399466.html https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/articl...
- __turbobrew__ 8mo ago
  Project 2025 was publicly available prior to the election. Tariffs were one of the many policies within the larger plan. If you voted for Trump you are responsible for the Tariffs, this is not a hoodwink where Trump rug pulled everyone after getting elected — it was literally there in the open.
  - deathanatos 8mo ago
    Even beyond/disregarding Project 2025, tariffs were a well-known part of the GOP platform in 2024; it was even included and discussed at the Presidential Debate. The Harris platform even called it a tax at that time, to attempt to make it quite clear to the voter who, in the end, would bear the cost, and the Trump platform equivocated on who would pay the tax to distract from that Harris was right. Even if you knew nothing of Project 2025 (somehow), you were warned.
    - larusso 8mo ago
      On top you have news outlets and educated people not being clear what they are. See from the article: He has long argued tariffs boost American manufacturing - but many in the business community, as well as Trump's political adversaries, say the costs are passed on to consumers It’s reported as if someone still needs to figure out who pays the tariffs in the end. I’m aware that tariffs are a lever to potential move buying behavior and give incentives to move production locally. But in this instance and how it’s/ was implemented it’s clear who is the paying for it.
    - vjvjvjvjghv 8mo ago
mapontosevenths 8mo ago
Trump believed that Obama was a secret Muslim infiltrate sent to destroy America because he's black, that's what they voted for. Racism. The rest of it was just gravy.
- nurettin 8mo ago
  The problem is USA doesn't get good choices. Given the choice between a walking corpse and trump, they choose the corpse. Given the choice between a woman and trump, they choose trump.
  - hermanzegerman 8mo ago
    Care to elaborate why a person is a bad choice because she is a women? Especially compared to someone who shits his own pants in the public?
    - nurettin 8mo ago
      I think there is a language barrier issue here.
    - JKCalhoun 8mo ago
      I assume they were suggesting that to those that voted for Trump they saw a woman as the worse choice. Perhaps as well when Hillary Clinton ran against him.
- poisonarena 8mo ago
  This is loony, all these guys knew eachother for years before and have cordial if nor friendly relationships. The Clintons, Trump, Bushes, Obamas, etc.
  - mapontosevenths 8mo ago
    In 2016 65% of Trump supporters believed Obama was secretly Muslim. [0] Trump claimed that Obama was "the founder of Isis" and claimed MANY times that he was not born in the United States. [1] So yes, he is completely loony... and very blatantly a racist who sends dogwhistles to other racists regularly. No, he is not friends with Obama or Biden. In fact, Trump is the first president in 150 years to refuse to attend the inauguration of his competitor after losing. [2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_religion_conspiracy_theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_religion_conspira... [1] https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/508194635270062080 https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/508194635270062080 [2] https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/notably-absent-presidential-no-shows-on-inauguration-day-photo-7 https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/notably-absent-pres...
Keekgette 8mo ago
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Many voted for this

by ikiris 8mo ago

Many voted for this

These people are not necessary against tariff, they are against paying more for their stuff and having it benefit some middleman because the current government messed up badly. I can otherwise understand how people would agree on paying more for their stuff if it allows their fellow citizens to have a job.

jacobgkau 8mo ago
[flagged]
- Recurecur 8mo ago
  Don’t panic too much yet, there are other legal bases for the tariffs. We’ll see…
- xorcist 8mo ago
  There are many reasonable ideas for import taxation. But what you describe was not what happened. China fought back with their own tariffs, and you may well have paid less import tax on your Temu knock-offs than you did for some widget made with both higher environmental and labor standards in some western European country.
- myvoiceismypass 8mo ago
  You are pro thoughtless tariffs against every random country, because of temu ads?

cptroot 8mo ago

Very few people voted for tariffs, specifically. They voted for a promise of a return to a world where they were on top.

riffraff 8mo ago
tariff were promised and implemented by Trump in his first mandate too, if you voted for him, you mostly voted for America Great Again Through Tariffs. After the liberation day tariffs were announced, 34% of the people thought they were good. https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article303399466.html https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/articl...
__turbobrew__ 8mo ago
Project 2025 was publicly available prior to the election. Tariffs were one of the many policies within the larger plan. If you voted for Trump you are responsible for the Tariffs, this is not a hoodwink where Trump rug pulled everyone after getting elected — it was literally there in the open.
- deathanatos 8mo ago
  Even beyond/disregarding Project 2025, tariffs were a well-known part of the GOP platform in 2024; it was even included and discussed at the Presidential Debate. The Harris platform even called it a tax at that time, to attempt to make it quite clear to the voter who, in the end, would bear the cost, and the Trump platform equivocated on who would pay the tax to distract from that Harris was right. Even if you knew nothing of Project 2025 (somehow), you were warned.
  - larusso 8mo ago
    On top you have news outlets and educated people not being clear what they are. See from the article: He has long argued tariffs boost American manufacturing - but many in the business community, as well as Trump's political adversaries, say the costs are passed on to consumers It’s reported as if someone still needs to figure out who pays the tariffs in the end. I’m aware that tariffs are a lever to potential move buying behavior and give incentives to move production locally. But in this instance and how it’s/ was implemented it’s clear who is the paying for it.
  - vjvjvjvjghv 8mo ago

mapontosevenths 8mo ago

Trump believed that Obama was a secret Muslim infiltrate sent to destroy America because he's black, that's what they voted for. Racism. The rest of it was just gravy.

nurettin 8mo ago
The problem is USA doesn't get good choices. Given the choice between a walking corpse and trump, they choose the corpse. Given the choice between a woman and trump, they choose trump.
- hermanzegerman 8mo ago
  Care to elaborate why a person is a bad choice because she is a women? Especially compared to someone who shits his own pants in the public?
  - nurettin 8mo ago
    I think there is a language barrier issue here.
  - JKCalhoun 8mo ago
    I assume they were suggesting that to those that voted for Trump they saw a woman as the worse choice. Perhaps as well when Hillary Clinton ran against him.
poisonarena 8mo ago
This is loony, all these guys knew eachother for years before and have cordial if nor friendly relationships. The Clintons, Trump, Bushes, Obamas, etc.
- mapontosevenths 8mo ago
  In 2016 65% of Trump supporters believed Obama was secretly Muslim. [0] Trump claimed that Obama was "the founder of Isis" and claimed MANY times that he was not born in the United States. [1] So yes, he is completely loony... and very blatantly a racist who sends dogwhistles to other racists regularly. No, he is not friends with Obama or Biden. In fact, Trump is the first president in 150 years to refuse to attend the inauguration of his competitor after losing. [2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_religion_conspiracy_theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_religion_conspira... [1] https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/508194635270062080 https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/508194635270062080 [2] https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/notably-absent-presidential-no-shows-on-inauguration-day-photo-7 https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/notably-absent-pres...

Keekgette 8mo ago

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