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Its only the most important story if you can prove the OP didnt fabricate this entire scenario for attention.

MattRix 8mo ago
Anyone who has used OpenClaw knows this is VERY plausible. I don’t know why someone would go through all the effort to fake it. Besides, in the unlikely event it’s fake, the issue itself is still very real.
- protocolture 8mo ago
  I think its very plausible in both directions. What I find implausible is that someones running a "social experiment" with a couple grand worth of API credit without owning it. Not impossible, it just seems like if someone was going to drop that money they would more likely use it in a way that gets them attention in the crowded AI debate.
  - mschild 8mo ago
    I think the social experiment is a cop-out used after it failed. If the PR was accepted, we'd probably see a blog post show up on HN saying that agents can successfully contribute to open source.
    - Applejinx 8mo ago
      …by the agent.
simonw 8mo ago
That's a bizarre thing to accuse someone of doing.
- Avicebron 8mo ago
  It's not really... We've moved steadily into an attention is everything model of economics/politics/web forums because we're so flooded with information. Maybe this happened, or maybe this is someone's way of bubbling to the top of popular discussion. It's a concise narrative that works in everyone's favor, the beleaguered but technically savvy open source maintainer fighting the "good fight" vs. the outstandingly independent and competent "rogue AI." My money is that both parties want it to be true. Whether it is or not isn't the point.
- polotics 8mo ago
  The risk/reward equation on the attention a matplotlib maintainer gets... makes me think the likelihood of a fake is zero percent.
  - cube00 8mo ago
    He's more then a "matplotlib maintainer", he's also a full time founder of a one-year old start up "to give spacecraft operators the tools they need to ensure their satellites can survive long-term in a turbulent space weather environment."
- delaminator 8mo ago
  https://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ https://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
hxugufjfjf 8mo ago
I don’t think the burden of proof lies on OP here. I also don’t think he fabricated it.
- protocolture 8mo ago
  If he wasnt getting the vast majority of the attention from publishing about it I would agree.
  - ljm 8mo ago
    I don't really see the validity in creating a conspiracy theory here. It's very crisis actor adjacent.
    - protocolture 8mo ago
      Its not a conspiracy theory. Its a claim without evidence, and a significant lack of verification going on.

Anyone who has used OpenClaw knows this is VERY plausible. I don’t know why someone would go through all the effort to fake it. Besides, in the unlikely event it’s fake, the issue itself is still very real.

protocolture 8mo ago
I think its very plausible in both directions. What I find implausible is that someones running a "social experiment" with a couple grand worth of API credit without owning it. Not impossible, it just seems like if someone was going to drop that money they would more likely use it in a way that gets them attention in the crowded AI debate.
- mschild 8mo ago
  I think the social experiment is a cop-out used after it failed. If the PR was accepted, we'd probably see a blog post show up on HN saying that agents can successfully contribute to open source.
  - Applejinx 8mo ago
    …by the agent.

simonw 8mo ago

That's a bizarre thing to accuse someone of doing.

Avicebron 8mo ago
It's not really... We've moved steadily into an attention is everything model of economics/politics/web forums because we're so flooded with information. Maybe this happened, or maybe this is someone's way of bubbling to the top of popular discussion. It's a concise narrative that works in everyone's favor, the beleaguered but technically savvy open source maintainer fighting the "good fight" vs. the outstandingly independent and competent "rogue AI." My money is that both parties want it to be true. Whether it is or not isn't the point.
polotics 8mo ago
The risk/reward equation on the attention a matplotlib maintainer gets... makes me think the likelihood of a fake is zero percent.
- cube00 8mo ago
  He's more then a "matplotlib maintainer", he's also a full time founder of a one-year old start up "to give spacecraft operators the tools they need to ensure their satellites can survive long-term in a turbulent space weather environment."
delaminator 8mo ago
https://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ https://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

hxugufjfjf 8mo ago

I don’t think the burden of proof lies on OP here. I also don’t think he fabricated it.

protocolture 8mo ago
If he wasnt getting the vast majority of the attention from publishing about it I would agree.
- ljm 8mo ago
  I don't really see the validity in creating a conspiracy theory here. It's very crisis actor adjacent.
  - protocolture 8mo ago
    Its not a conspiracy theory. Its a claim without evidence, and a significant lack of verification going on.