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It’s not even close to 0.3%, the last time the Obama administration tried to get accurate numbers the republicans blew a head gasket. The fact that supposedly e

It’s not even close to 0.3%, the last time the Obama administration tried to get accurate numbers the republicans blew a head gasket. The fact that supposedly every American owns 4 or 5 guns should hint at how bad the smuggling problem is, and Americans are supporting it with a wink and cooked statistics, they are basically willingly exporting death.

nickff 8mo ago
Have you actually looked up any of the numbers you're writing here? It seems like the USA has about 393.4MM civilian firearms, which is ~1.2 per capita. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g... About 32% of Americans say they personally own one or more guns, and most of those people own multiple weapons. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts... Where are the 'cooked statistics'?
WillPostForFood 8mo ago
0.03% is ten times less than 0.3%, so I agree it is not even close. The money to manufacturers from smuggling is a rounding error. The numbers are from anti-gun activists, so they are incentivized to over state, not understate the smuggling. The fact that supposedly every American owns 4 or 5 guns should hint at how bad the smuggling problem is I think it shows how disconnected non-gun owners are from people who own guns. None of my liberal gun owning friends in California have fewer than 4-5 guns. My conservative gun owning friends in Texas have 20-30 guns. I've never met a gun owner that had 1-2.
- kube-system 8mo ago
  There are three types of people: 1. people who don't have a gun 2. "gun owners"... who have them as a hobby and have a bunch of guns 3. people who just happen to have a gun at home. you don't hear about these people because they aren't "into" guns and don't talk about them.
  - bdangubic 8mo ago
    I am #3 and there are a lot of us (every close friend I have is #3). we don't talk about them publicly so every non-close friend I have would lose a house betting against me owning a gun (I am as non-conservative politically as it gets)
    - kube-system 8mo ago
      Liberals and guns are like conservatives and abortions. They both have them they just don't talk about them.
  - WillPostForFood 8mo ago
    I know people who don't like guns don't want to hear it, but guns are tools. You wouldn't ask a carpenter if the only tool he needed was one saw. You don't just need a saw, you need a hammer, a screwdriver, a drill. And you don't just need one saw, you need a few specialized saws, and many screwdrivers. Maybe one hammer is enough.
    - kube-system 8mo ago
      Yes, and while most people aren't carpenters, some people are interested in carpentry, and some people just need to cut one board.

nickff 8mo ago

Have you actually looked up any of the numbers you're writing here? It seems like the USA has about 393.4MM civilian firearms, which is ~1.2 per capita. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g... About 32% of Americans say they personally own one or more guns, and most of those people own multiple weapons. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts... Where are the 'cooked statistics'?

WillPostForFood 8mo ago

0.03% is ten times less than 0.3%, so I agree it is not even close. The money to manufacturers from smuggling is a rounding error. The numbers are from anti-gun activists, so they are incentivized to over state, not understate the smuggling. The fact that supposedly every American owns 4 or 5 guns should hint at how bad the smuggling problem is I think it shows how disconnected non-gun owners are from people who own guns. None of my liberal gun owning friends in California have fewer than 4-5 guns. My conservative gun owning friends in Texas have 20-30 guns. I've never met a gun owner that had 1-2.

kube-system 8mo ago
There are three types of people: 1. people who don't have a gun 2. "gun owners"... who have them as a hobby and have a bunch of guns 3. people who just happen to have a gun at home. you don't hear about these people because they aren't "into" guns and don't talk about them.
- bdangubic 8mo ago
  I am #3 and there are a lot of us (every close friend I have is #3). we don't talk about them publicly so every non-close friend I have would lose a house betting against me owning a gun (I am as non-conservative politically as it gets)
  - kube-system 8mo ago
    Liberals and guns are like conservatives and abortions. They both have them they just don't talk about them.
- WillPostForFood 8mo ago
  I know people who don't like guns don't want to hear it, but guns are tools. You wouldn't ask a carpenter if the only tool he needed was one saw. You don't just need a saw, you need a hammer, a screwdriver, a drill. And you don't just need one saw, you need a few specialized saws, and many screwdrivers. Maybe one hammer is enough.
  - kube-system 8mo ago
    Yes, and while most people aren't carpenters, some people are interested in carpentry, and some people just need to cut one board.