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So it'll have porn?

general1465 8mo ago
I wonder if American citizens from states which requires age verification to access porn (25 US states today) will be fine with it or these states will start demanding ID to access freedom.gov. It would be delicious irony.
- Animats 8mo ago
  Right. Porn will probably be most of the traffic. The number of people in Europe who really want to access US neo-Nazi sites is probably not large.
  - graemep 8mo ago
    There is a lot more blocked than porn and neo-nazis. This will also allow access to sites that block access because of laws: Imgur is not accessible from the uk, nor are a lot of smaller US news sites. Ofcom are after 4 chan too.
    - deleted 8mo ago
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    - mvc 8mo ago
      Oh no! Not 4chan. How ever will we Europeans keep up with the latest theories about which celebrities are actually AI influencers.
      - pembrook 8mo ago
        Amazed to see so many government bootlickers on "hacker" news these days. Gone are the days of the misfits and pirates and the innovators. "Tie me up and tell me what I'm allowed to do daddy government, I will agree no matter what, you know what's best."
      - petcat 8mo ago
        Sounds like censorship is already becoming normalized in the EU and UK. Terrifying.
        sensanaty 8mo ago
        First off, the UK isn't in the EU, and 2nd, not a single website is blocked for me here in the Netherlands, quite literally none. I can access Discord without an ID, I can watch all the porn I want, I can pirate anything I want from anywhere etc. How many states require IDs to go to porn sites, again? How many journos is it now that Trump blacklisted from the White House? Yeah, lotta freedoms over there...
        graemep 8mo ago
        > First off, the UK isn't in the EU I would guess that is why the GP said "EU and UK" > ot a single website is blocked for me here in the Netherlands, quite literally none One EU country. At the very least I know you have censored search results as that is an EU wide requirement of the right to be forgotten. > I can pirate anything I want from anywhere etc. Multiple EU countries are blocking pirate sites. https://torrentfreak.com/european-isps-complain-about-disproportionate-pirate-site-blocking/ https://torrentfreak.com/european-isps-complain-about-dispro... Some countries have very broad definitions of hate speech. There are definitely American sites that block EU visitors because of the cost/risk of GDPR compliance.
        sensanaty 8mo ago
        > At the very least I know you have censored search results as that is an EU wide requirement of the right to be forgotten. How is the right to be forgotten a bad thing exactly? You can't request a news article be deleted if you're a prominent public figure for obvious reasons, but if you're a random Joe Schmoe then being able to force companies to take down things they've collected about you is a good thing. And are you implying search engines in the US don't have things "censored" all the time anyway? If you look up basically any form of media on Google, at the bottom will be a large list of links removed due to DMCA takedowns. Hell, Youtube literally steals all ad revenue from creators hit with DMCA takedowns, even falsified ones, where's your complaint about Google censoring its own creators? > Multiple EU countries are blocking pirate sites And that's idiotic, but definitionally not the case in "The EU" as can be seen by my country which is part of The EU, the Netherlands, not blocking access to any pirate sites. I would know, I pirate media quite literally every single day of my life, both private and public trackers without even having a VPN or anything of the sort. I'm sure it's not the only EU country to not block anything, even though corrupt idiots in Spain and Italy also exist. > There are definitely American sites that block EU visitors because of the cost/risk of GDPR compliance. I mean, good? If business are so incompetent/malicious that they can't even comply with the GDPR, which just states that users have to be informed and have to give explicit consent to companies harvesting their data, then they can fuck off. If your company goes bankrupt because the GDPR makes it impossible to earn money, good riddance to that parasitic business model I say, maybe get a real revenue stream that doesn't rely on fucking over every single one of your users instead? The people who are against GDPR are really telling on themselves and how little they respect their own users. But anyways wtf does the GDPR have to do with "censorship" or hate speech? If anything this sounds like you're arguing that the US companies are the ones doing the censorship, considering they're the ones blocking it for EU users (apparently, I've literally never come across a blocked page due to GDPR, and it's not like California doesn't have similarly stringent regulations either like the CCPA). Next you're going to tell me HIPAA is censorship as well.
      - beeflet 8mo ago
        If 4chan is unimportant, why is it being censored?
- plorg 8mo ago
  Or, since it's apparently run by HHS, surely they will protect people looking for resources about abortion, hormones, etc. Real rich material coming from the government demanding it's biggest Internet companies unmask government critics.
  - ojbyrne 8mo ago
    Pretty sure it will be like TrumpRX. Big PR blitz and when the details are exposed, a nothing burger.
- jeroenhd 8mo ago
  Previous propaganda channels from the government couldn't legally be broadcast within the US itself, so it's possible they'll try to pull the same thing here.
crest 8mo ago
Government mandated uncensored free porn access. I wonder if this will this also apply in US states requiring age verification to legally access such content?
- kojacklives 8mo ago
  They will probably (first) have to bounce off freedom.ccTLD for any ccTLD but .us.

So it'll have porn?

I wonder if American citizens from states which requires age verification to access porn (25 US states today) will be fine with it or these states will start demanding ID to access freedom.gov. It would be delicious irony.

Animats 8mo ago
Right. Porn will probably be most of the traffic. The number of people in Europe who really want to access US neo-Nazi sites is probably not large.
- graemep 8mo ago
  There is a lot more blocked than porn and neo-nazis. This will also allow access to sites that block access because of laws: Imgur is not accessible from the uk, nor are a lot of smaller US news sites. Ofcom are after 4 chan too.
  - deleted 8mo ago
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  - mvc 8mo ago
    Oh no! Not 4chan. How ever will we Europeans keep up with the latest theories about which celebrities are actually AI influencers.
    - pembrook 8mo ago
      Amazed to see so many government bootlickers on "hacker" news these days. Gone are the days of the misfits and pirates and the innovators. "Tie me up and tell me what I'm allowed to do daddy government, I will agree no matter what, you know what's best."
    - petcat 8mo ago
      Sounds like censorship is already becoming normalized in the EU and UK. Terrifying.
      - sensanaty 8mo ago
        First off, the UK isn't in the EU, and 2nd, not a single website is blocked for me here in the Netherlands, quite literally none. I can access Discord without an ID, I can watch all the porn I want, I can pirate anything I want from anywhere etc. How many states require IDs to go to porn sites, again? How many journos is it now that Trump blacklisted from the White House? Yeah, lotta freedoms over there...
        graemep 8mo ago
        > First off, the UK isn't in the EU I would guess that is why the GP said "EU and UK" > ot a single website is blocked for me here in the Netherlands, quite literally none One EU country. At the very least I know you have censored search results as that is an EU wide requirement of the right to be forgotten. > I can pirate anything I want from anywhere etc. Multiple EU countries are blocking pirate sites. https://torrentfreak.com/european-isps-complain-about-disproportionate-pirate-site-blocking/ https://torrentfreak.com/european-isps-complain-about-dispro... Some countries have very broad definitions of hate speech. There are definitely American sites that block EU visitors because of the cost/risk of GDPR compliance.
        sensanaty 8mo ago
        > At the very least I know you have censored search results as that is an EU wide requirement of the right to be forgotten. How is the right to be forgotten a bad thing exactly? You can't request a news article be deleted if you're a prominent public figure for obvious reasons, but if you're a random Joe Schmoe then being able to force companies to take down things they've collected about you is a good thing. And are you implying search engines in the US don't have things "censored" all the time anyway? If you look up basically any form of media on Google, at the bottom will be a large list of links removed due to DMCA takedowns. Hell, Youtube literally steals all ad revenue from creators hit with DMCA takedowns, even falsified ones, where's your complaint about Google censoring its own creators? > Multiple EU countries are blocking pirate sites And that's idiotic, but definitionally not the case in "The EU" as can be seen by my country which is part of The EU, the Netherlands, not blocking access to any pirate sites. I would know, I pirate media quite literally every single day of my life, both private and public trackers without even having a VPN or anything of the sort. I'm sure it's not the only EU country to not block anything, even though corrupt idiots in Spain and Italy also exist. > There are definitely American sites that block EU visitors because of the cost/risk of GDPR compliance. I mean, good? If business are so incompetent/malicious that they can't even comply with the GDPR, which just states that users have to be informed and have to give explicit consent to companies harvesting their data, then they can fuck off. If your company goes bankrupt because the GDPR makes it impossible to earn money, good riddance to that parasitic business model I say, maybe get a real revenue stream that doesn't rely on fucking over every single one of your users instead? The people who are against GDPR are really telling on themselves and how little they respect their own users. But anyways wtf does the GDPR have to do with "censorship" or hate speech? If anything this sounds like you're arguing that the US companies are the ones doing the censorship, considering they're the ones blocking it for EU users (apparently, I've literally never come across a blocked page due to GDPR, and it's not like California doesn't have similarly stringent regulations either like the CCPA). Next you're going to tell me HIPAA is censorship as well.
    - beeflet 8mo ago
      If 4chan is unimportant, why is it being censored?
plorg 8mo ago
Or, since it's apparently run by HHS, surely they will protect people looking for resources about abortion, hormones, etc. Real rich material coming from the government demanding it's biggest Internet companies unmask government critics.
- ojbyrne 8mo ago
  Pretty sure it will be like TrumpRX. Big PR blitz and when the details are exposed, a nothing burger.
jeroenhd 8mo ago
Previous propaganda channels from the government couldn't legally be broadcast within the US itself, so it's possible they'll try to pull the same thing here.

crest 8mo ago

Government mandated uncensored free porn access. I wonder if this will this also apply in US states requiring age verification to legally access such content?

kojacklives 8mo ago
They will probably (first) have to bounce off freedom.ccTLD for any ccTLD but .us.