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An odd tendency I’ve noticed about Graeber is that the more someone apparently dislikes his work, the more it will seem like they’re talking about totally diffe
by bubblewand 8mo ago
An odd tendency I’ve noticed about Graeber is that the more someone apparently dislikes his work, the more it will seem like they’re talking about totally different books from the ones I read.
- groundzeros2015 8mo agoBecause he uses private framings of concepts that are well understood. So if your first encounter is through Graeber you’re going to have friction with every other understanding. If you’ve read much else you will say “hold on a minute, what’s about …”
- wolvesechoes 8mo ago> If you’ve read much else If you've read much else you should be able to engage with text properly, and construct charitable interpretations of author's claims or arguments.
- groundzeros2015 8mo agoPlease read my comments here engaging with the ideas in the text and specifically your concern that bullshit jobs are just jobs that don’t feel important.
- wolvesechoes 8mo agoYou have written bunch of comments regarding advertising, single comment criticizing Graeber for using concepts in uncommon way, and one reply to my comment that doesn't really connect with the content of that comment. Did I miss something?
- groundzeros2015 8mo agoYes, David graeber talks a lot about the idea of bullshit jobs but fails to identify them concretely. As we see in this thread, whenever someone puts up an example, there is actually value he misses because he is unfamiliar with the workplace and business. The example used here was advertising. And then when we push on the example the fallback is to the subjective - feeling unfilled, definition. So I am still look for concrete examples of bullshit jobs to justify the original comment that AI will find efficiencies by letting us throw these away. Got any? You are an expert on the text so I’m hoping you can identify one.