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> The project owner strongly emphasize the no LLM dependency, in a world of AI slope this is so refreshing. Huh? This is obvious AI slop from the readme. Look

by lambda 8mo ago

> The project owner strongly emphasize the no LLM dependency, in a world of AI slope this is so refreshing. Huh? This is obvious AI slop from the readme. Look at that "ASCII art" diagram with misaligned "|" at the end of the lines. That's a very clear AI slop tell, anyone editing by hand would instinctively delete the extra spaces to align those.

RockRobotRock 8mo ago
>No LLVM. No HIP translation layer. No "convert your CUDA to something else first." Just ...... Another obvious tell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#Rule_of_three https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#Negative_parallelisms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#...
- ZaneHam 8mo ago
  Oh gosh, Emdashes are already ruined for me and now I can't use that to? I've already had to drop boldface in some of my writings because it's become prolific too. This is also just what I intentionally avoided when making this by the way. I don't really know how else to phrase this because LLVM and HIP are quite prolific in the compiler/GPU world it seems.
  - cmdr2 8mo ago
    For what it's worth - for people who're in this space - this project is awesome, and I hope you keep going with it! The compiler space for GPUs really needs truly open-source efforts like this. Code/doc generators are just another tool. A carpenter uses power tools to cut or drill things quickly, instead of screwing everything manually. That doesn't mean they're doing a sloppy job, because they're still going to obsessively pore over every detail of the finished product. A sloppy carpenter will be sloppy even without power tools. So yeah, I don't think it's worth spending extra effort to please random HN commenters, because the people who face the problem that you're trying to solve will find it valuable regardless. An errant bold or pipe symbol doesn't matter to people who actually need what you're building.
  - RockRobotRock 8mo ago
    My mistake, sorry. HN has me feeling extra paranoid lately.
- m-schuetz 8mo ago
  TIL: I'm an LLM.
ZaneHam 8mo ago
Hello! Didn't realise this was posted here (again lol) but where I originally posted, on the R/Compilers subreddit I do mention I used chatgpt to generate some ascii art for me. I was tired and it was 12am and I then had to spend another few minutes deleting all the Emojis it threw in there. I've also been open about how I use AI use to people who know me, and I work with in the OSS space. I have a lil Ollama model that helps me from time to time, especially with test result summaries (if you've ever seen what happens when a Mainframe emulator explodes on a NIST test you'd want AI too lol, 10k lines of individual errors aint fun to walk through) and you can even see some Chatgpt generated Cuda in notgpt.cu which I mixed and mashed a little bit. All in all, I'm of the opinion that this is perfectly acceptable use of AI.
cmdr2 8mo ago
> This is obvious AI slop from the readme I keep hoping that low-effort comments like these will eventually get downvoted (because it's official HN policy). I get that it's fashionable to call things AI slop, but please put some effort into reading the code and making an informed judgment. It's really demeaning to call someone's hard work "AI slop". What you're implying is that the quality of the work is poor. Did you actually read the code? Do you think the author didn't obsessively spend time over the code? Do you have specific examples to justify calling this sloppy? Besides a misaligned "|" symbol? And I doubt you even read anything because the author never talked about LLMs in the first place. My beef isn't with you personally, it's with this almost auto-generated trend of comments on HN calling everyone's work "AI slop". One might say, low-effort comments like these are arguably "AI slop", because you could've generated them using GPT-2 (or even simple if-conditionals).
- kmaitreys 8mo ago
  While I would not call this AI slop, the probability that LLMs were used is high. > It's really demeaning to call someone's hard work "AI slop". I agree. I browsed through some files and found AI-like comments in the code. The readme and several other places have AI-like writing. Regarding author not spending time on this project, this is presumably a 16k loc project that was commited in a single commit two days ago. So the author never commited any draft/dev version in the time. I find that quite hard to believe. Again my opinion is that LLMs were used, not that the code is slop. It may be. It may not be. Yes this whole comment chain is the top comment misreading LLVM as LLMs which is hilarious. > My beef isn't with you personally, it's with this almost auto-generated trend of comments on HN calling everyone's work "AI slop". Now this doesn't necessarily is about this particular project but if you post something on a public forum for reactions then you are seeking the time of the people who will read and interact with it. So if they encounter something that the original author did not even bother to write, why should they read it? You're seeing many comments like that because there's just a lot of slop like that. And I think people should continue calling that out. Again, this project specifically may or may not be slop. So here the reactions are a bit too strong.
  - cmdr2 8mo ago
croes 8mo ago
Parent confused LLVM with LLM
hobofan 8mo ago
> anyone editing by hand would instinctively delete the extra spaces to align those I think as a human I am significantly more likely to give up on senseless pixelpushing like this than an LLM.

by lambda 8mo ago

RockRobotRock 8mo ago

>No LLVM. No HIP translation layer. No "convert your CUDA to something else first." Just ...... Another obvious tell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#Rule_of_three https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#Negative_parallelisms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#...

ZaneHam 8mo ago
Oh gosh, Emdashes are already ruined for me and now I can't use that to? I've already had to drop boldface in some of my writings because it's become prolific too. This is also just what I intentionally avoided when making this by the way. I don't really know how else to phrase this because LLVM and HIP are quite prolific in the compiler/GPU world it seems.
- cmdr2 8mo ago
  For what it's worth - for people who're in this space - this project is awesome, and I hope you keep going with it! The compiler space for GPUs really needs truly open-source efforts like this. Code/doc generators are just another tool. A carpenter uses power tools to cut or drill things quickly, instead of screwing everything manually. That doesn't mean they're doing a sloppy job, because they're still going to obsessively pore over every detail of the finished product. A sloppy carpenter will be sloppy even without power tools. So yeah, I don't think it's worth spending extra effort to please random HN commenters, because the people who face the problem that you're trying to solve will find it valuable regardless. An errant bold or pipe symbol doesn't matter to people who actually need what you're building.
- RockRobotRock 8mo ago
  My mistake, sorry. HN has me feeling extra paranoid lately.
m-schuetz 8mo ago
TIL: I'm an LLM.

ZaneHam 8mo ago

Hello! Didn't realise this was posted here (again lol) but where I originally posted, on the R/Compilers subreddit I do mention I used chatgpt to generate some ascii art for me. I was tired and it was 12am and I then had to spend another few minutes deleting all the Emojis it threw in there. I've also been open about how I use AI use to people who know me, and I work with in the OSS space. I have a lil Ollama model that helps me from time to time, especially with test result summaries (if you've ever seen what happens when a Mainframe emulator explodes on a NIST test you'd want AI too lol, 10k lines of individual errors aint fun to walk through) and you can even see some Chatgpt generated Cuda in notgpt.cu which I mixed and mashed a little bit. All in all, I'm of the opinion that this is perfectly acceptable use of AI.

cmdr2 8mo ago

> This is obvious AI slop from the readme I keep hoping that low-effort comments like these will eventually get downvoted (because it's official HN policy). I get that it's fashionable to call things AI slop, but please put some effort into reading the code and making an informed judgment. It's really demeaning to call someone's hard work "AI slop". What you're implying is that the quality of the work is poor. Did you actually read the code? Do you think the author didn't obsessively spend time over the code? Do you have specific examples to justify calling this sloppy? Besides a misaligned "|" symbol? And I doubt you even read anything because the author never talked about LLMs in the first place. My beef isn't with you personally, it's with this almost auto-generated trend of comments on HN calling everyone's work "AI slop". One might say, low-effort comments like these are arguably "AI slop", because you could've generated them using GPT-2 (or even simple if-conditionals).

kmaitreys 8mo ago
While I would not call this AI slop, the probability that LLMs were used is high. > It's really demeaning to call someone's hard work "AI slop". I agree. I browsed through some files and found AI-like comments in the code. The readme and several other places have AI-like writing. Regarding author not spending time on this project, this is presumably a 16k loc project that was commited in a single commit two days ago. So the author never commited any draft/dev version in the time. I find that quite hard to believe. Again my opinion is that LLMs were used, not that the code is slop. It may be. It may not be. Yes this whole comment chain is the top comment misreading LLVM as LLMs which is hilarious. > My beef isn't with you personally, it's with this almost auto-generated trend of comments on HN calling everyone's work "AI slop". Now this doesn't necessarily is about this particular project but if you post something on a public forum for reactions then you are seeking the time of the people who will read and interact with it. So if they encounter something that the original author did not even bother to write, why should they read it? You're seeing many comments like that because there's just a lot of slop like that. And I think people should continue calling that out. Again, this project specifically may or may not be slop. So here the reactions are a bit too strong.
- cmdr2 8mo ago

croes 8mo ago

Parent confused LLVM with LLM

hobofan 8mo ago

> anyone editing by hand would instinctively delete the extra spaces to align those I think as a human I am significantly more likely to give up on senseless pixelpushing like this than an LLM.