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what is the point? genetic diversity? women and the length of pregnancy is the limiting bottleneck. Men can have kids very late, and from what I heard, only a c

what is the point? genetic diversity? women and the length of pregnancy is the limiting bottleneck. Men can have kids very late, and from what I heard, only a certain top percentage of sperm donors' products get picked.

dismalaf 8mo ago
Maybe Ukrainian women want to have kids with their partners who are soldiers? Morale boost, probably a higher willingness to fight to the possible death if you know there's a chance your genes will survive... It's about more than simply having anyone's children...
roysting 8mo ago
It might even just be a cynical motivation to with zero actual intent on using it. Men under pressure to be thrown into the meat grinder will be more encouraged and motivated if they believe their legacy can continue even without what they know is a death sentence.
- copperx 8mo ago
  A cheap morale booster.
- eaglelamp 8mo ago
  > The politicians' initial efforts caused a public outcry though, when they stipulated that all samples should be destroyed on a donor's death. Looks like you're right.
ars 8mo ago
No, the bottleneck is the desire to have children. Unless you are planning to force the women, you need policies (such as these) that encourage them to want children.
- dietr1ch 8mo ago
  Which requires affordability to own a home sooner rather than later, but here we are closer to 50yr mortgages than closing in the replacement rate.
rngfnby 8mo ago
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- jmye 8mo ago
  So easy to demand they cede territory for “peace” from your couch in Austin. But hey, I get it. Breitbart said they should.
  - rngfnby 8mo ago
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    - jmye 8mo ago
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    - artem2471 8mo ago
      Maybe people in Ukraine already decided? There is no trust between Ukraine and Russia, there won’t be an agreement.
  - constrictyuslf 8mo ago
    Some ukarians would probably prefer to be on a couch too, even if it's West of the donbass, but not like they have a choice about martial law or conscription or the suspension of voting, but hey just some details right?
    - atmavatar 8mo ago
      Ceding territory to end the war will surely fix the problem. That worked out well with Crimea, after all.
      - somenameforme 8mo ago
        They didn't cede anything there. They continued to claim that Crimea was theirs, with support from the US. Less than a year before Russia invaded Ukraine, Ukraine was openly speaking of all options to retake Crimea which would obviously entail war with Russia. [1] All the while they were actively seeking to join NATO, and Biden was certainly implying it would happen soon. This certainly contributed to Russia's decision to invade, as they likely saw the future as being a war on their terms, or a war on NATO's terms. And the narrative about aggressor would have likely played out similarly even if Ukraine/Biden had moved to invade Crimea, precisely because nothing was ever conceded. [1] - https://www.unian.info/politics/russian-aggression-ukraine-approves-strategy-to-end-occupation-of-crimea-11349913.html https://www.unian.info/politics/russian-aggression-ukraine-a...
coryrc 8mo ago
Russians torture and mutilate their prisoners. If they get caught, they likely will not be returned with their gonads intact. Is this a war crime? Yes. Is the rest of world letting it happen or actively abetting? It is!
crazygringo 8mo ago
The headline is misleading. It's simply so now-widows can have another child (or two) with their late husband. It's motivation for the soldiers -- even if you don't make it, you can still have another child after your death, and in that way you'll live on.
gspetr 8mo ago
> genetic diversity? Partially, yes. I know a scientist in one of Denver's clinics specializing in reproductive health. They do not allow more than 25 descendants per man per country, and do not allow more than 100 globally. Yes, they do export the material to many countries, including developed ones, such as the UK. The law about inheriting frozen material from a deceased partner is also widely outdated in many jurisdictions around the globe. In many countries even the legal wife cannot inherit it without active consent, which cannot be given posthumously for obvious reasons.

dismalaf 8mo ago

Maybe Ukrainian women want to have kids with their partners who are soldiers? Morale boost, probably a higher willingness to fight to the possible death if you know there's a chance your genes will survive... It's about more than simply having anyone's children...

roysting 8mo ago

It might even just be a cynical motivation to with zero actual intent on using it. Men under pressure to be thrown into the meat grinder will be more encouraged and motivated if they believe their legacy can continue even without what they know is a death sentence.

copperx 8mo ago
A cheap morale booster.
eaglelamp 8mo ago
> The politicians' initial efforts caused a public outcry though, when they stipulated that all samples should be destroyed on a donor's death. Looks like you're right.

ars 8mo ago

No, the bottleneck is the desire to have children. Unless you are planning to force the women, you need policies (such as these) that encourage them to want children.

dietr1ch 8mo ago
Which requires affordability to own a home sooner rather than later, but here we are closer to 50yr mortgages than closing in the replacement rate.

rngfnby 8mo ago

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jmye 8mo ago
So easy to demand they cede territory for “peace” from your couch in Austin. But hey, I get it. Breitbart said they should.
- rngfnby 8mo ago
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  - jmye 8mo ago
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  - artem2471 8mo ago
    Maybe people in Ukraine already decided? There is no trust between Ukraine and Russia, there won’t be an agreement.
- constrictyuslf 8mo ago
  Some ukarians would probably prefer to be on a couch too, even if it's West of the donbass, but not like they have a choice about martial law or conscription or the suspension of voting, but hey just some details right?
  - atmavatar 8mo ago
    Ceding territory to end the war will surely fix the problem. That worked out well with Crimea, after all.
    - somenameforme 8mo ago
      They didn't cede anything there. They continued to claim that Crimea was theirs, with support from the US. Less than a year before Russia invaded Ukraine, Ukraine was openly speaking of all options to retake Crimea which would obviously entail war with Russia. [1] All the while they were actively seeking to join NATO, and Biden was certainly implying it would happen soon. This certainly contributed to Russia's decision to invade, as they likely saw the future as being a war on their terms, or a war on NATO's terms. And the narrative about aggressor would have likely played out similarly even if Ukraine/Biden had moved to invade Crimea, precisely because nothing was ever conceded. [1] - https://www.unian.info/politics/russian-aggression-ukraine-approves-strategy-to-end-occupation-of-crimea-11349913.html https://www.unian.info/politics/russian-aggression-ukraine-a...

coryrc 8mo ago

Russians torture and mutilate their prisoners. If they get caught, they likely will not be returned with their gonads intact. Is this a war crime? Yes. Is the rest of world letting it happen or actively abetting? It is!

crazygringo 8mo ago

The headline is misleading. It's simply so now-widows can have another child (or two) with their late husband. It's motivation for the soldiers -- even if you don't make it, you can still have another child after your death, and in that way you'll live on.

gspetr 8mo ago

> genetic diversity? Partially, yes. I know a scientist in one of Denver's clinics specializing in reproductive health. They do not allow more than 25 descendants per man per country, and do not allow more than 100 globally. Yes, they do export the material to many countries, including developed ones, such as the UK. The law about inheriting frozen material from a deceased partner is also widely outdated in many jurisdictions around the globe. In many countries even the legal wife cannot inherit it without active consent, which cannot be given posthumously for obvious reasons.