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I use AI a LOT. OpenAI said I'm in the 1% of people using ChatGPT (bad thing imo). I use Claude and Codex all day long, building and shipping. But just do not

I use AI a LOT. OpenAI said I'm in the 1% of people using ChatGPT (bad thing imo). I use Claude and Codex all day long, building and shipping. But just do not get the Clawbot / OpenClaw hype at all. What are people doing with this thing? I tried it out, and I found it a bit underwhelming. What am I missing?

plagiarist 8mo ago
All the use cases I have seen were seemed to be non-technical users excited to have it generate daily reports on competitors' websites.
- 8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo ago
  Opus 4.6 seems to do fine for a "get an intern to write something to manager" style reports. I would say there's no need for OpenClaw in my opinion.
  - SV_BubbleTime 8mo ago
    I’ve found a few times that it was easier to not start with a blank page. Have Claude write a thing, see instantly how wrong it was, but use the idea clay to get started. That’s a legit AI use. Treating it as an intern has not let me down yet. Treating it as a co-worker has.
someguyiguess 8mo ago
I feel the same way. I fail to see what is useful about it or what problem it solves.
- 8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo ago
  It gets people to waste money on API costs.
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checker659 8mo ago
I think they're people who have yet to come across virtual machines.
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- garciasn 8mo ago
  I am not sure I understand this comment at all. I've been managing fleets of VMs for 15 years, both on-prem and cloud and, yet, I still use OpenClaw for funsies.
  - checker659 8mo ago
    I'm mostly talking about people running to buy a mac mini to run OpenClaw (which seems to be most of the posts I've encountered so far)
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    - catmanjan 8mo ago
      How else will you get iMessage?
ssk42 8mo ago
The biggest clue I’ve seen is someone using it to do cold calls on websites. Claw searches for shoddy-looking construction sites, makes a better version on Vercel, and sends out a pitch.
- thisisit 8mo ago
  Are we visiting the same sites/talking to same people? Because I heard about this “use case” couple of days ago.
  - ssk42 8mo ago
    Probably. It was on my tiktok FYP
wortelefant 8mo ago
One use case I see for myself is to scan ccertain Obsidian folders for article drafts, add the cited literature to Zotero , even try to download them, and enhance the article draft with clear Zotero citation placehodlers while I am away. Also reminding me of stuff or doing research when I instruct it via telegram voice message is nice. Taking care of the boring stuff like updating a fitness tracker google spreadsheet, adding sources with my comments to Zotero and such. I hate data gardening.
- yencabulator 8mo ago
  This is something Claude Code can do just fine.
pigpop 8mo ago
The way I've heard people describe it, they seem to be impressed by being able to treat it as an assistant that they can tell to do something and it just figures out how to do it and delivers the result back to them. My guess is it's only really useful if you have a lot of services and data to integrate it into which it can then operate on at your command. I should try it for myself but I don't have a lot of things to integrate it with so no idea if it'll be any improvement over just running claude in a directory of things I want to work on.
- 8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo ago
  I find it useful for menial tasks and giving it instructions via chat apps. Probably its greatest advantages are ease of setup and integration with chat applications.
  - r0fl 8mo ago
    Like what specifically that can’t be done with apps
    - kaycey2022 8mo ago
      Maybe the fact that you need someone's app to do things on their platform.
- ls612 8mo ago
  So it’s like what Apple promised with Siri but it actually works?
dist-epoch 8mo ago
You are missing that instead of you prompting Claude/Codex you could have your OpenClaw manager prompt them. Not saying it works perfectly, but it's where things are going.
cowpig 8mo ago
The companies running the algorithms that dictate the information you consume are the same companies that stand to economically benefit from users handing over agency over their decisions and all of their personal information to AI applications. It's corporate propaganda
- r0b05 8mo ago
  Are you saying that Anthropic might be the ones pushing this?
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  - dvfjsdhgfv 8mo ago
    Definitely not the only ones.
  - cowpig 8mo ago
    While Anthropic certainly benefits from the privacy/security overton window shifting, I've never seen Claude or people from Anthropic mention these projects so I have no evidence to include them
giancarlostoro 8mo ago
Not sure but it feels like that setup (Claw) is more likely to get your files deleted or hacked. Ill still to Claude, out of curiosity which plans are you in with openai? I just do Claude Code Max (100 tier) and dont bother with any other AI.
siva7 8mo ago
Those impressed by OpenClaw are non-technical people highly interested in trying to make sense out of Ai for their own profit. There is really no use case for OpenClaw if you got tech talent.
- garciasn 8mo ago
  I'm technical (e.g., I've been using Linux since 1995). I lead highly technical teams (Data Engineering, DevOps, and Data Science). I used to play ALL THE TIME with technical stuff; I loved to tinker. Over the years I fell out of love with this and just wanted things to work so I could do my job and relax outside of it. OpenClaw is the first thing I've truly enjoyed tinkering with again. I can leverage both the technical side of things (working w/it to build automated grocery ordering for me on demand or setting up more home automation that's all integrated) as well as the non-technical (e.g., I love having it welcome me home when it detects I've not been at home for >1h or automatically adjust the thermostat up/down a few degrees based on the weather and my absence while knowing to move it back to the 'normal' when I'm returning). To say that I don't have a use case for OpenClaw even though I can do all of the tech stuff is seriously demeaning and absurd.
  - kilroy123 8mo ago
    Interesting. Well, you made me want to look deeper.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 8mo ago
    For someone who used Linux since 95, you seem to have enormous trust in this thing.
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    - nitroedge 8mo ago
Havoc 8mo ago
The main value seems to be connecting it directly to your coms - email, whatsapp etc. Not something I'm keen on but could see myself using it for calendar / knowledgebase etc.
amitav1 8mo ago
Personally, I use it to manage all of the stuff I don't want to. I give it my course content and it makes flashcards for me to review. I give it my tasks and it schedules them throughout the day. All of the menial stuff that is necessary but not productive. It also has a much better memory than I do on account of it's constant access to a filesystem and grep. It's like my personal assistant and tutor and guidance counsellor and sysadmin, all in one. I do think that a) you need to stick with it for a few days and b) use a good model. When I first started using it, it was just a worse version of ChatGPT, but after bringing in all of my data from ChatGPT it's a lot easier for it to search for stuff when it's confused. Now it can also do stuff like manage nginx or my sync serviceand whatnot, ~autonomously. Originally I was using locally running qwen models, but they were so timid as to be useless. Right now I'm using Kimi 2.5 as my model.
- kilroy123 8mo ago
  Oh wow, I never even thought about importing all my ChatGPT data. I guess for me a lot of tasks on a daily to-do list aren't things that can be done on the computer... So no virtual thing will be much help.
  - amitav1 8mo ago
    By schedule my tasks throughout the day, I mean that it will figure out when I should do each thing, not that it does all of the things for me.
- gigatexal 8mo ago
  Could it be an office manager? I’ve a friend whose trying to start a business and while he’s technically very capable at long complex networking build outs and things he’s drowning in the paperwork of the office and revenues aren’t there yet enough to fund staff.
  - amitav1 8mo ago
    I don't see why not, but I also have no experience in that sort of stuff, so take my endorsement with a grain of salt
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guld 8mo ago
I totally get what you are feeling, I felt the same just 6 weeks ago. It just did not click for you yet. There is probably some key feature missing, that you deeply care about, but do not yet see it solved, or on the horizon of becoming solved by the application of a personal "Jarvis" yet. Personal assistants fulfill different needs for everyone. I personally care a lot about having fun at coding again, that's what the OpenClaw craze made me feel for the first time in decades. I build my own OpenClaw assistant generator from scratch using a simple Markdown file because it is just so fun. Not so much using it for anything notably yet but starting to see their potential. Just ponder what it is that you get out of using ChatGPT and imagine how it could be better, more personal to you. You may find some key feature missing from OpenClaw or have some completely orthogonal project idea that excites you.
- maelito 8mo ago
  This comment looks like a company's PR :/
thisisit 8mo ago
Productivity - in all caps. Most of the use cases I have found is people using it to automate the day to day stuff - as it comes with calendar, memory and heartbeat feature. You can do the same stuff using other tools but then you wouldn’t feel smart or the tool wouldn’t feel smart because it is not AI.
mvp 8mo ago
For me : 1. Makes the input easy - use familiar tool of choice -> WhatsApp/Telegram/etc 2. Integrate with anything - for example gmail through gog 3. Save to memory without prompting 4. Has a Soul.md which you can customize. 5. Have a reason to use a VPS All of these are possible with Claude Code etc, however it's the the whole package that makes it more useful.

plagiarist 8mo ago

All the use cases I have seen were seemed to be non-technical users excited to have it generate daily reports on competitors' websites.

8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo ago
Opus 4.6 seems to do fine for a "get an intern to write something to manager" style reports. I would say there's no need for OpenClaw in my opinion.
- SV_BubbleTime 8mo ago
  I’ve found a few times that it was easier to not start with a blank page. Have Claude write a thing, see instantly how wrong it was, but use the idea clay to get started. That’s a legit AI use. Treating it as an intern has not let me down yet. Treating it as a co-worker has.

someguyiguess 8mo ago

I feel the same way. I fail to see what is useful about it or what problem it solves.

8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo ago
It gets people to waste money on API costs.
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checker659 8mo ago

I think they're people who have yet to come across virtual machines.

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garciasn 8mo ago
I am not sure I understand this comment at all. I've been managing fleets of VMs for 15 years, both on-prem and cloud and, yet, I still use OpenClaw for funsies.
- checker659 8mo ago
  I'm mostly talking about people running to buy a mac mini to run OpenClaw (which seems to be most of the posts I've encountered so far)
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
  - catmanjan 8mo ago
    How else will you get iMessage?

ssk42 8mo ago

The biggest clue I’ve seen is someone using it to do cold calls on websites. Claw searches for shoddy-looking construction sites, makes a better version on Vercel, and sends out a pitch.

thisisit 8mo ago
Are we visiting the same sites/talking to same people? Because I heard about this “use case” couple of days ago.
- ssk42 8mo ago
  Probably. It was on my tiktok FYP

wortelefant 8mo ago

One use case I see for myself is to scan ccertain Obsidian folders for article drafts, add the cited literature to Zotero , even try to download them, and enhance the article draft with clear Zotero citation placehodlers while I am away. Also reminding me of stuff or doing research when I instruct it via telegram voice message is nice. Taking care of the boring stuff like updating a fitness tracker google spreadsheet, adding sources with my comments to Zotero and such. I hate data gardening.

yencabulator 8mo ago
This is something Claude Code can do just fine.

pigpop 8mo ago

The way I've heard people describe it, they seem to be impressed by being able to treat it as an assistant that they can tell to do something and it just figures out how to do it and delivers the result back to them. My guess is it's only really useful if you have a lot of services and data to integrate it into which it can then operate on at your command. I should try it for myself but I don't have a lot of things to integrate it with so no idea if it'll be any improvement over just running claude in a directory of things I want to work on.

8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo ago
I find it useful for menial tasks and giving it instructions via chat apps. Probably its greatest advantages are ease of setup and integration with chat applications.
- r0fl 8mo ago
  Like what specifically that can’t be done with apps
  - kaycey2022 8mo ago
    Maybe the fact that you need someone's app to do things on their platform.
ls612 8mo ago
So it’s like what Apple promised with Siri but it actually works?

dist-epoch 8mo ago

You are missing that instead of you prompting Claude/Codex you could have your OpenClaw manager prompt them. Not saying it works perfectly, but it's where things are going.

cowpig 8mo ago

The companies running the algorithms that dictate the information you consume are the same companies that stand to economically benefit from users handing over agency over their decisions and all of their personal information to AI applications. It's corporate propaganda

r0b05 8mo ago
Are you saying that Anthropic might be the ones pushing this?
- deleted 8mo ago
  [deleted]
- dvfjsdhgfv 8mo ago
  Definitely not the only ones.
- cowpig 8mo ago
  While Anthropic certainly benefits from the privacy/security overton window shifting, I've never seen Claude or people from Anthropic mention these projects so I have no evidence to include them

giancarlostoro 8mo ago

Not sure but it feels like that setup (Claw) is more likely to get your files deleted or hacked. Ill still to Claude, out of curiosity which plans are you in with openai? I just do Claude Code Max (100 tier) and dont bother with any other AI.

siva7 8mo ago

Those impressed by OpenClaw are non-technical people highly interested in trying to make sense out of Ai for their own profit. There is really no use case for OpenClaw if you got tech talent.

garciasn 8mo ago
I'm technical (e.g., I've been using Linux since 1995). I lead highly technical teams (Data Engineering, DevOps, and Data Science). I used to play ALL THE TIME with technical stuff; I loved to tinker. Over the years I fell out of love with this and just wanted things to work so I could do my job and relax outside of it. OpenClaw is the first thing I've truly enjoyed tinkering with again. I can leverage both the technical side of things (working w/it to build automated grocery ordering for me on demand or setting up more home automation that's all integrated) as well as the non-technical (e.g., I love having it welcome me home when it detects I've not been at home for >1h or automatically adjust the thermostat up/down a few degrees based on the weather and my absence while knowing to move it back to the 'normal' when I'm returning). To say that I don't have a use case for OpenClaw even though I can do all of the tech stuff is seriously demeaning and absurd.
- kilroy123 8mo ago
  Interesting. Well, you made me want to look deeper.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8mo ago
  For someone who used Linux since 95, you seem to have enormous trust in this thing.
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
  - nitroedge 8mo ago

Havoc 8mo ago

The main value seems to be connecting it directly to your coms - email, whatsapp etc. Not something I'm keen on but could see myself using it for calendar / knowledgebase etc.

amitav1 8mo ago

Personally, I use it to manage all of the stuff I don't want to. I give it my course content and it makes flashcards for me to review. I give it my tasks and it schedules them throughout the day. All of the menial stuff that is necessary but not productive. It also has a much better memory than I do on account of it's constant access to a filesystem and grep. It's like my personal assistant and tutor and guidance counsellor and sysadmin, all in one. I do think that a) you need to stick with it for a few days and b) use a good model. When I first started using it, it was just a worse version of ChatGPT, but after bringing in all of my data from ChatGPT it's a lot easier for it to search for stuff when it's confused. Now it can also do stuff like manage nginx or my sync serviceand whatnot, ~autonomously. Originally I was using locally running qwen models, but they were so timid as to be useless. Right now I'm using Kimi 2.5 as my model.

kilroy123 8mo ago
Oh wow, I never even thought about importing all my ChatGPT data. I guess for me a lot of tasks on a daily to-do list aren't things that can be done on the computer... So no virtual thing will be much help.
- amitav1 8mo ago
  By schedule my tasks throughout the day, I mean that it will figure out when I should do each thing, not that it does all of the things for me.
gigatexal 8mo ago
Could it be an office manager? I’ve a friend whose trying to start a business and while he’s technically very capable at long complex networking build outs and things he’s drowning in the paperwork of the office and revenues aren’t there yet enough to fund staff.
- amitav1 8mo ago
  I don't see why not, but I also have no experience in that sort of stuff, so take my endorsement with a grain of salt

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guld 8mo ago

I totally get what you are feeling, I felt the same just 6 weeks ago. It just did not click for you yet. There is probably some key feature missing, that you deeply care about, but do not yet see it solved, or on the horizon of becoming solved by the application of a personal "Jarvis" yet. Personal assistants fulfill different needs for everyone. I personally care a lot about having fun at coding again, that's what the OpenClaw craze made me feel for the first time in decades. I build my own OpenClaw assistant generator from scratch using a simple Markdown file because it is just so fun. Not so much using it for anything notably yet but starting to see their potential. Just ponder what it is that you get out of using ChatGPT and imagine how it could be better, more personal to you. You may find some key feature missing from OpenClaw or have some completely orthogonal project idea that excites you.

maelito 8mo ago
This comment looks like a company's PR :/

thisisit 8mo ago

Productivity - in all caps. Most of the use cases I have found is people using it to automate the day to day stuff - as it comes with calendar, memory and heartbeat feature. You can do the same stuff using other tools but then you wouldn’t feel smart or the tool wouldn’t feel smart because it is not AI.

mvp 8mo ago

For me : 1. Makes the input easy - use familiar tool of choice -> WhatsApp/Telegram/etc 2. Integrate with anything - for example gmail through gog 3. Save to memory without prompting 4. Has a Soul.md which you can customize. 5. Have a reason to use a VPS All of these are possible with Claude Code etc, however it's the the whole package that makes it more useful.