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>>Something was lost by Arch becoming stable and not breaking regularly Only a Linux user would consider the instability of a Linux distro to be a good thing.

badgersnake 8mo ago
If your goal is to learn how it works this was great, a new challenge every day. Perhaps we need a chaosmonkey Linux distro. Also FreeBSD did this well recently, migrating libc and libsys in the wrong order so you have no kernel API. That was fun.
- KAMSPioneer 8mo ago
  I was hit with that on a remote box in another country! Should have researched the upgrade more before I did it, but it is a personal thing and not work. However, my IPMI motherboard and FreeBSD's integrated ZFS boot environments might be considered cheating...
encom 8mo ago
You don't become a mechanic without fixing broken down cars. So in that sense, the shittier the car, the better. My Linux story is similar. In retrospect I learned it on hard mode, because Gentoo was the first distro I used (as in really used). And Gentoo, especially back around 2004 or so, really gave you fully automatic, armour-piercing, double-barreled footguns.
- bombcar 8mo ago
  Gentoo foot guns were (are) the best! That you could always just boot from the CD and start again was nice. I think I reinstalled 4-5 times the "first time" before I got it where I wanted to be.
gosub100 8mo ago
If you choose not to upgrade, it is stable. There is no QA department for Linux (or windows, they were let go around 2015) so someone has to endure the instability if there is to be any progress. We should all thank those who run nascent software so those who run stable distros can have stability.
ofalkaed 8mo ago
It is the sort of mentality required to reach the place in computing which linux has. Decent chance you have linux running on something you own even if you do not run it on your computer and even if you don't, you do use the internet.

badgersnake 8mo ago

If your goal is to learn how it works this was great, a new challenge every day. Perhaps we need a chaosmonkey Linux distro. Also FreeBSD did this well recently, migrating libc and libsys in the wrong order so you have no kernel API. That was fun.

KAMSPioneer 8mo ago
I was hit with that on a remote box in another country! Should have researched the upgrade more before I did it, but it is a personal thing and not work. However, my IPMI motherboard and FreeBSD's integrated ZFS boot environments might be considered cheating...

encom 8mo ago

You don't become a mechanic without fixing broken down cars. So in that sense, the shittier the car, the better. My Linux story is similar. In retrospect I learned it on hard mode, because Gentoo was the first distro I used (as in really used). And Gentoo, especially back around 2004 or so, really gave you fully automatic, armour-piercing, double-barreled footguns.

bombcar 8mo ago
Gentoo foot guns were (are) the best! That you could always just boot from the CD and start again was nice. I think I reinstalled 4-5 times the "first time" before I got it where I wanted to be.

gosub100 8mo ago

If you choose not to upgrade, it is stable. There is no QA department for Linux (or windows, they were let go around 2015) so someone has to endure the instability if there is to be any progress. We should all thank those who run nascent software so those who run stable distros can have stability.

ofalkaed 8mo ago

It is the sort of mentality required to reach the place in computing which linux has. Decent chance you have linux running on something you own even if you do not run it on your computer and even if you don't, you do use the internet.