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They know what they are doing. To survive as a large entity during this administration you have to kiss the ring. If you don't, you'll get targeted for being 'w

They know what they are doing. To survive as a large entity during this administration you have to kiss the ring. If you don't, you'll get targeted for being 'woke' or whatever. In fact, kissing Trump's ass is more important for success than actually making a good product at this point. I definitely don't think what these CEOs are doing is moral, but it's certainly rational.

scblock 9mo ago
This is unacceptable behavior, and terrible that anyone would think this way. You're telling me that if Tim Cook wasn't getting on his knees every couple of weeks Apple would end? That's farcical.
- michaelt 9mo ago
  > You're telling me that if Tim Cook wasn't getting on his knees every couple of weeks Apple would end? That's farcical. I think that a 30%, 64% or 145% tax on Chinese imports would be a huge blow for a $400 billion business importing Chinese-made phones. And Trump can impose such taxes (and grant exemptions from them) at will, apparently.
- yoyohello13 9mo ago
  Is it? You think if Tim Cook took a stand and said no to Trump there wouldn’t all of a sudden be a rush of new tarriffs/lawsuits? I’m not so sure.
- anon7000 9mo ago
  You should watch this video: https://youtu.be/RPzcGeiNYvk https://youtu.be/RPzcGeiNYvk And it IS farcical! I mean, look at the FIFA “peace prize.” They literally invented it to give to Trump because he was threatening US World Cup matches. What’s farcical is that this behavior actually apparently works on the president.
  - plagiarist 9mo ago
    Well, he is a demented nitwit with a giant ego who loves ostentatiously tacky gold-plated objects. You wouldn't be surprised if a crow traded you something for a bottlecap. The crow is smarter.
davidw 9mo ago
Kissing up to the bully just means they come back to extort you for more the next time. I don't think it's even rational behavior.
- anon7000 9mo ago
  The shareholders don’t care. Yet another example in the long list of late stage capitalism problems. The only thing these executives are allowed to care about is money & profit. If Trump is able to unilaterally threaten those profits (via tariffs or other regulations), obviously the executives have to respond to that. Plus, Trump has proven to be extremely receptive to farcical “bribes” — just look at the “FIFA peace prize.” It doesn’t take much to placate his ego. So the rational, easy path through for the executives is to get with the program and play nice with Trump. Are they spineless cowards? Sure, but since when does capitalism and shareholders incentivize anything else?
embedding-shape 9mo ago
No, the matter of fact is that Apple would survive no matter what. But would they (the people involved, not the company, Cook & other executives) make as much money if they went against the administration compared to how much they could make while playing along? Also no, and is why you're seeing people bowing down, they personally make much more money then.
- yoyohello13 9mo ago
  Survive was probably too strong a word. But I stand by my point that, right now, business success is closely tied to how much Trump likes you.
  - embedding-shape 9mo ago
    > business success is closely tied to how much Trump likes you And I'd still make the same point I've done so many times before; sometimes maybe there are more important things than "business makes much money so I make much money".
    - yoyohello13 9mo ago
      Yes 100%! I’m not saying I condone or agree with what’s happening. Just pointing out the reality.
      - embedding-shape 9mo ago
        > Just pointing out the reality I'm just disagreeing with that "To survive as a large entity during this administration you have to kiss the ring" is actually the reality. The reality as I see it is that individuals want to make money, lots of money, and authoritarianism is more favorable for that. They'll still make lots of money if they fight against it. But they'll make less.

scblock 9mo ago

This is unacceptable behavior, and terrible that anyone would think this way. You're telling me that if Tim Cook wasn't getting on his knees every couple of weeks Apple would end? That's farcical.

michaelt 9mo ago
> You're telling me that if Tim Cook wasn't getting on his knees every couple of weeks Apple would end? That's farcical. I think that a 30%, 64% or 145% tax on Chinese imports would be a huge blow for a $400 billion business importing Chinese-made phones. And Trump can impose such taxes (and grant exemptions from them) at will, apparently.
yoyohello13 9mo ago
Is it? You think if Tim Cook took a stand and said no to Trump there wouldn’t all of a sudden be a rush of new tarriffs/lawsuits? I’m not so sure.
anon7000 9mo ago
You should watch this video: https://youtu.be/RPzcGeiNYvk https://youtu.be/RPzcGeiNYvk And it IS farcical! I mean, look at the FIFA “peace prize.” They literally invented it to give to Trump because he was threatening US World Cup matches. What’s farcical is that this behavior actually apparently works on the president.
- plagiarist 9mo ago
  Well, he is a demented nitwit with a giant ego who loves ostentatiously tacky gold-plated objects. You wouldn't be surprised if a crow traded you something for a bottlecap. The crow is smarter.

davidw 9mo ago

Kissing up to the bully just means they come back to extort you for more the next time. I don't think it's even rational behavior.

anon7000 9mo ago
The shareholders don’t care. Yet another example in the long list of late stage capitalism problems. The only thing these executives are allowed to care about is money & profit. If Trump is able to unilaterally threaten those profits (via tariffs or other regulations), obviously the executives have to respond to that. Plus, Trump has proven to be extremely receptive to farcical “bribes” — just look at the “FIFA peace prize.” It doesn’t take much to placate his ego. So the rational, easy path through for the executives is to get with the program and play nice with Trump. Are they spineless cowards? Sure, but since when does capitalism and shareholders incentivize anything else?

embedding-shape 9mo ago

No, the matter of fact is that Apple would survive no matter what. But would they (the people involved, not the company, Cook & other executives) make as much money if they went against the administration compared to how much they could make while playing along? Also no, and is why you're seeing people bowing down, they personally make much more money then.

yoyohello13 9mo ago
Survive was probably too strong a word. But I stand by my point that, right now, business success is closely tied to how much Trump likes you.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  > business success is closely tied to how much Trump likes you And I'd still make the same point I've done so many times before; sometimes maybe there are more important things than "business makes much money so I make much money".
  - yoyohello13 9mo ago
    Yes 100%! I’m not saying I condone or agree with what’s happening. Just pointing out the reality.
    - embedding-shape 9mo ago
      > Just pointing out the reality I'm just disagreeing with that "To survive as a large entity during this administration you have to kiss the ring" is actually the reality. The reality as I see it is that individuals want to make money, lots of money, and authoritarianism is more favorable for that. They'll still make lots of money if they fight against it. But they'll make less.