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Spotify says its best developers haven't written code since Dec, thanks to AI

18 points by samspenc 8mo ago

thecrumb 8mo ago
Is that why the Linux version is still broken?
rafavargascom 8mo ago
That explains a lot....
deafpolygon 8mo ago
Explains why the app hasn’t noticeably improved yet.
simpleusername 8mo ago
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taylodl 8mo ago
Doesn't say anything about what their worst developers have been doing...
adamredwoods 8mo ago
The co-CEO gives a terrible example. A developer is working while commuting? How clear is one's thinking skills during that time? How safe is that to deploy a production commit? Does Spotify test in prod?
- ares623 8mo ago
  and why do they need to commute at all?
- cpncrunch 8mo ago
  No mention of any code review in their example.
icedchai 8mo ago
The best developers are probably wading through slop filled code reviews.
cxvwK 8mo ago
Cool, this is great. The sooner these apps start collapsing from ill-written and unchecked code the better. P.s. Im not a SWE for a living but I can see through this crap.
greatgib 8mo ago
And just wait for when they force their developers (that are not writing any line of code), to go back onsite because "remote is bad"...
4d4m 8mo ago
Spotify please open a limited time test api for experimenters without 250k DAU. There are people that would love to build that dont yet have that user base.
ramon156 8mo ago
Spotify also keeps bewaking every update, so I do not trust their opinions
hackable_sand 8mo ago
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lm28469 8mo ago
They haven't written code in years seeing how their piece of shit desktop app uses more ram and cpu cycles to stream 192kbps music in a day than the entire NASA stack for all Apollo missions combined. They should ask Claude to rewrite it in a real programming language
- deleted 8mo ago
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- kjkjadksj 8mo ago
  Look into spotifyd if you want some resource usage sanity.
- chrisandchris 8mo ago
  I just read it as "we were stuck and nobody got something done at all" to "we at least got something deployed". Going from zero to something mathematically speaking a very large increase (like infinite?).
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 8mo ago
    > like infinite? It's undefined because it's asking, "what is the inverse of 0/x" and x/0 has infinite correct answers if x = 0 and no correct answer if x ≠ 0.
gdulli 8mo ago
I can picture the entire hierarchy telling whoever's next up the chain what they're demanding to hear. I'd be scripting the consumption of lots of credits and sending the output to /dev/null to get a glowing performance review.
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pseudohadamard 8mo ago
Man, a friend of mine hasn't written code for years. He generally comes in at least fifteen minutes late, using the side door - that way the boss can't see him, - and, uh, after that he just sorta spaces out for about an hour. He just stares at his desk; but it looks like he's working. He does that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week he probably only does about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work, and even that's just filling out TPS reports.
0xCE0 8mo ago
And it shows. Desktop app gets laggier and buggier on every update. And recently like 1 of every 10 consecutive songs just doesn't play. When clicking on the song, it feels like the app tries to redirect original song link (the "app" is a website) to some other link and it doesn't find it. As an example, Madonna - Frozen (from 1998 Ray of Light album) just doesn't play, just tried. I have been paying Spotify customer since 2008 or something, I have playlists that are so old that it doesn't show dates added. Last week I cancelled my subscription, and switched to YouTube Premium (no ads + YT Music). YT music is even more horrible especially with playlists. Maybe I just buy somewhere (Amazon MP3?) my the 10 most listened albums and call it my music listening for the future.

18 points by samspenc 8mo ago

thecrumb 8mo ago

Is that why the Linux version is still broken?

rafavargascom 8mo ago

That explains a lot....

deafpolygon 8mo ago

Explains why the app hasn’t noticeably improved yet.

simpleusername 8mo ago

[dead]

taylodl 8mo ago

Doesn't say anything about what their worst developers have been doing...

adamredwoods 8mo ago

The co-CEO gives a terrible example. A developer is working while commuting? How clear is one's thinking skills during that time? How safe is that to deploy a production commit? Does Spotify test in prod?

ares623 8mo ago
and why do they need to commute at all?
cpncrunch 8mo ago
No mention of any code review in their example.

icedchai 8mo ago

The best developers are probably wading through slop filled code reviews.

cxvwK 8mo ago

Cool, this is great. The sooner these apps start collapsing from ill-written and unchecked code the better. P.s. Im not a SWE for a living but I can see through this crap.

greatgib 8mo ago

And just wait for when they force their developers (that are not writing any line of code), to go back onsite because "remote is bad"...

4d4m 8mo ago

Spotify please open a limited time test api for experimenters without 250k DAU. There are people that would love to build that dont yet have that user base.

ramon156 8mo ago

Spotify also keeps bewaking every update, so I do not trust their opinions

hackable_sand 8mo ago

[flagged]

lm28469 8mo ago

They haven't written code in years seeing how their piece of shit desktop app uses more ram and cpu cycles to stream 192kbps music in a day than the entire NASA stack for all Apollo missions combined. They should ask Claude to rewrite it in a real programming language

deleted 8mo ago
[deleted]
kjkjadksj 8mo ago
Look into spotifyd if you want some resource usage sanity.
chrisandchris 8mo ago
I just read it as "we were stuck and nobody got something done at all" to "we at least got something deployed". Going from zero to something mathematically speaking a very large increase (like infinite?).
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 8mo ago
  > like infinite? It's undefined because it's asking, "what is the inverse of 0/x" and x/0 has infinite correct answers if x = 0 and no correct answer if x ≠ 0.

gdulli 8mo ago

I can picture the entire hierarchy telling whoever's next up the chain what they're demanding to hear. I'd be scripting the consumption of lots of credits and sending the output to /dev/null to get a glowing performance review.

deleted 8mo ago

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pseudohadamard 8mo ago

Man, a friend of mine hasn't written code for years. He generally comes in at least fifteen minutes late, using the side door - that way the boss can't see him, - and, uh, after that he just sorta spaces out for about an hour. He just stares at his desk; but it looks like he's working. He does that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week he probably only does about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work, and even that's just filling out TPS reports.

0xCE0 8mo ago

And it shows. Desktop app gets laggier and buggier on every update. And recently like 1 of every 10 consecutive songs just doesn't play. When clicking on the song, it feels like the app tries to redirect original song link (the "app" is a website) to some other link and it doesn't find it. As an example, Madonna - Frozen (from 1998 Ray of Light album) just doesn't play, just tried. I have been paying Spotify customer since 2008 or something, I have playlists that are so old that it doesn't show dates added. Last week I cancelled my subscription, and switched to YouTube Premium (no ads + YT Music). YT music is even more horrible especially with playlists. Maybe I just buy somewhere (Amazon MP3?) my the 10 most listened albums and call it my music listening for the future.