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Peacetime Google is not like wartime Google. Peacetime Google is slow, bumbling, bureaucratic. Wartime Google gets shit done.

nutjob2 8mo ago
OpenAI is the best thing that happened to Google apparently.
- RationPhantoms 8mo ago
  Competition always is. I think there was a real fear that their core product was going to be replaced. They're already cannibalizing it internally so it was THE wake up call.
- taurath 8mo ago
  Just not search. The search product has pretty much become useless over the past 3 years and the AI answers often will get just to the level of 5 years ago. This creates a sense that that things are better - but really it’s just become impossible to get reliable information from an avenue that used to work very well. I don’t think this is intentional, but I think they stopped fighting SEO entirely to focus on AI. Recipes are the best example - completely gutted and almost all receive sites (therefore the entire search page) run by the same company. I didn’t realize how utterly consolidated huge portions of information on the internet was until every recipe site about 3 months ago simultaneously implemented the same anti-Adblock.
  - miohtama 8mo ago
    The search product become useless on a particular day of 2019 as discussed on HN News some time ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976
- koolala 8mo ago
  Next they compete on ads...
lern_too_spel 8mo ago
Wartime Google gave us Google+. Wartime Google is still bumbling, and despite OpenAI's numerous missteps, I don't think it has to worry about Google hurting its business yet.
- NikolaNovak 8mo ago
  I do miss Google+. For my brain / use case, it was by far the best social network out there, and the Circle friends and interest management system is still unparalleled :)
- blinding-streak 8mo ago
  Google+ was fun. Failed in the market though. Apple made a social network called Ping. Disaster. MobileMe was silly. Microsoft made Zune and the Kin 1 and Kin 2 devices and Windows phone and all sorts of other disasters. These things happen.
  - Peaches4Rent 8mo ago
    I have a hypothesis that Google+ just wasn't addictive. Which is a good thing now, but not back then
  - machiaweliczny 8mo ago
    Windows Phone was actually good. I would even say that my Lumia something was one of best experiences ever on mobile. G+ was also good. Efficient markets mean that you can "extract" rent, via selling data or attention etc. not realy what is good

nutjob2 8mo ago

OpenAI is the best thing that happened to Google apparently.

RationPhantoms 8mo ago
Competition always is. I think there was a real fear that their core product was going to be replaced. They're already cannibalizing it internally so it was THE wake up call.
taurath 8mo ago
Just not search. The search product has pretty much become useless over the past 3 years and the AI answers often will get just to the level of 5 years ago. This creates a sense that that things are better - but really it’s just become impossible to get reliable information from an avenue that used to work very well. I don’t think this is intentional, but I think they stopped fighting SEO entirely to focus on AI. Recipes are the best example - completely gutted and almost all receive sites (therefore the entire search page) run by the same company. I didn’t realize how utterly consolidated huge portions of information on the internet was until every recipe site about 3 months ago simultaneously implemented the same anti-Adblock.
- miohtama 8mo ago
  The search product become useless on a particular day of 2019 as discussed on HN News some time ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976
koolala 8mo ago
Next they compete on ads...

lern_too_spel 8mo ago

Wartime Google gave us Google+. Wartime Google is still bumbling, and despite OpenAI's numerous missteps, I don't think it has to worry about Google hurting its business yet.

NikolaNovak 8mo ago
I do miss Google+. For my brain / use case, it was by far the best social network out there, and the Circle friends and interest management system is still unparalleled :)
blinding-streak 8mo ago
Google+ was fun. Failed in the market though. Apple made a social network called Ping. Disaster. MobileMe was silly. Microsoft made Zune and the Kin 1 and Kin 2 devices and Windows phone and all sorts of other disasters. These things happen.
- Peaches4Rent 8mo ago
  I have a hypothesis that Google+ just wasn't addictive. Which is a good thing now, but not back then
- machiaweliczny 8mo ago
  Windows Phone was actually good. I would even say that my Lumia something was one of best experiences ever on mobile. G+ was also good. Efficient markets mean that you can "extract" rent, via selling data or attention etc. not realy what is good