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> What's astonishing is, whether you like him or not, the Orange man actually got the American public to accept what is defacto the largest tax increase in deca

> What's astonishing is, whether you like him or not, the Orange man actually got the American public to accept what is defacto the largest tax increase in decades. What does it mean "got the public to accept it?" The public had no say and these are probably illegal. On top of that, he probably literally does not know that these are effectively taxes on consumers (i.e. he believe his own bullshit). No credit is due here whatsoever.

pembrook 9mo ago
This was a huge part of the platform that the US overwhelmingly voted for in the last election. People wanted this. Yes, I'm sure he believes his own bullshit, but ironically, its bullshit that the US actually needed to pull (tax increases). Modern democracy has proven totally incapable of not stealing the future from its children.
- ohyoutravel 9mo ago
  “They wanted this” but the people who voted for this did not have the mental capacity to sort fact from fiction with respect to tariffs. So this falls flat.
- wvenable 9mo ago
  > its bullshit that the US actually needed to pull (tax increases). Did you forget that the Big Beautiful Bill included a massive tax cut?
- tencentshill 9mo ago
  They voted thinking tariffs are a fee charged to other countries for the privilege of selling to us. But I also agree that getting an advanced electronic device landed to my door for $5 was an unnatural economic state and something should have been done. Not unilateral 100%+ tariffs, changing weekly, with bonus rampant insider trading. We elected the worst possible person for that important job.
- nobody9999 9mo ago
  >This was a huge part of the platform that the US overwhelmingly voted for in the last election. People wanted this. Please define "overwhelmingly" in this context. A plurality (Not a majority), with a a small margin of victory (1.5%) at that of voters voted for the eventual winner. In fact, more people didn't vote at all[0] than voted for the winner. As such, I don't understand your use of that adverb. It's entirely possible that I'm missing something important. Perhaps you could enlighten me? [0] https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-15/how-many-people-didnt-vote-in-the-2024-election https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-1...
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pembrook 9mo ago

This was a huge part of the platform that the US overwhelmingly voted for in the last election. People wanted this. Yes, I'm sure he believes his own bullshit, but ironically, its bullshit that the US actually needed to pull (tax increases). Modern democracy has proven totally incapable of not stealing the future from its children.

ohyoutravel 9mo ago
“They wanted this” but the people who voted for this did not have the mental capacity to sort fact from fiction with respect to tariffs. So this falls flat.
wvenable 9mo ago
> its bullshit that the US actually needed to pull (tax increases). Did you forget that the Big Beautiful Bill included a massive tax cut?
tencentshill 9mo ago
They voted thinking tariffs are a fee charged to other countries for the privilege of selling to us. But I also agree that getting an advanced electronic device landed to my door for $5 was an unnatural economic state and something should have been done. Not unilateral 100%+ tariffs, changing weekly, with bonus rampant insider trading. We elected the worst possible person for that important job.
nobody9999 9mo ago
>This was a huge part of the platform that the US overwhelmingly voted for in the last election. People wanted this. Please define "overwhelmingly" in this context. A plurality (Not a majority), with a a small margin of victory (1.5%) at that of voters voted for the eventual winner. In fact, more people didn't vote at all[0] than voted for the winner. As such, I don't understand your use of that adverb. It's entirely possible that I'm missing something important. Perhaps you could enlighten me? [0] https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-15/how-many-people-didnt-vote-in-the-2024-election https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-1...

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