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People throughout Wales sing this song 130 years later I wonder how far are we from a song that is entirely generated by AI and becomes as loved as a song crea
by akudha 8mo ago
People throughout Wales sing this song 130 years later
I wonder how far are we from a song that is entirely generated by AI and becomes as loved as a song created by a human, and is still sung/played by people decades later? It feels weird to even think about it.
If AI does get as good as humans at creating art (I think it might), what happens then? Will human generated art be still as respected/valuable? Will humans even bother creating art at that stage?
On the topic of basic income - people seem to have strong opinions on both sides. I guess time will tell, but there isn't anything wrong in experimenting, at minimum. To those who strongly oppose UBI - don't we already give bailouts, huge tax breaks, subsidies to entire industries etc, to the extent of rewarding bad behavior (criminal behavior even) - like the one that caused 2008 crash? Why is corporate handouts okay but not UBI?
- matthewkayin 8mo ago> Will human generated art still be as respected/valuable? I would hope that humans would always value human generated art, but these days it seems that many businessmen and AI bros do not. Perhaps they are not human.
- amichal 8mo agoI wonder, can we not turn all threads into a "when will AI do this creative thing better than humans". Humans need basic income (or at least resources) and to have culturally valuable work to do. Art and craft esp as a form of human expression seems like we should ASSUME that humans want to do this, that we as a society value the human energy that goes into it.
- akudha 8mo agoYes, humans want to make art. But most humans would also want their art to be seen, appreciated at minimum. Would be nice if they can make a living out of it. I am not trying to turn all threads into AI debate, but AI threat to art is a legit concern. If AI mass produces art at comparable quality level to humans, it would be near impossible for humans to compete for other humans' attention. If nobody sees my art, would I still make art? Maybe some humans will, because creating art makes them happy and they don't care if anyone sees their art or not. But many humans will give up
- EQmWgw87pw 8mo agoCorporations produce things (productive), while UBI rewards unproductive behavior (theoretically)
- someone7x 8mo agoWhat a stunningly myopic conclusion. I hope one day you are able to acknowledge all the people in this world that live for purpose instead of for making Lumberg’s stock go up half a point.
- EQmWgw87pw 8mo agoI’m not really sure what having a purpose has to do with it. Whatever your purpose is, it is sustained by corporations and other people working for them, unless you are farming your own food and building your own house.
- monknomo 8mo agopeople working for corporations produce things, I think you'll find the incorporating docs, and the property owned do not produce things by themselves.
- LunaSea 8mo agoI agree but you'll also find that the workers without the capital and tools do not produce things either.
- EQmWgw87pw 8mo agoBut that’s the point. UBI allows people to not work for a corporation while also costing money that came from somewhere. Generally when there are corporate docs and owned property, those are the things required before production starts. What you’re saying doesn’t really affect the point.