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I knew plenty of people growing up who thought Fight Club was just a fun movie about guys who like to fight and make a club to do so and it gets a little crazy,

I knew plenty of people growing up who thought Fight Club was just a fun movie about guys who like to fight and make a club to do so and it gets a little crazy, then cut to credits. They then theorized making their own such club. This to say, yeah, I think sometimes the audience can be overestimated in their ability to understand deeper meaning in art.

sandworm101 8mo ago
And some extreemist are using fight clubs to gather followers, emulating the movie in the other direction. So-called "active clubs" are springing up using "fitness" to gather young angry males to the cause. Most join without realizing. Even gym owners are surprised to discover thier facilities have become clubhouses. https://www.jfed.net/antisemitismtoolsandresources/neo-nazi-fight-club-groups-spreading-in-canada-investigation-finds https://www.jfed.net/antisemitismtoolsandresources/neo-nazi-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Clubs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Clubs
- hackable_sand 8mo ago
  It's groomer behavior
- tencentshill 8mo ago
  Also see: The Art of Self Defense
hydrogen7800 8mo ago
And Scarface was an inspiring rags-to-riches story.
pbhjpbhj 8mo ago
It's said that Starship Troopers failed to do as well in USA because people thought it was pro-fascist propaganda ... it doesn't seem possible that could genuinely be the case.
- mrob 8mo ago
  Starship Troopers (the movie) is a terrible example of satire because it fails to show anything substantially bad. When you present a society that's more ethical than real life, nobody's going to care if some people wear uniforms that look a bit like Nazi uniforms. There is a genuine existential risk, and it's addressed in the best way possible. Military slavery ("conscription") is more evil than disenfranchisement, especially when citizenship is not required to live a good life. Nobody is tricked or coerced into signing up for military service. Potential recruits are even shown disabled veterans to make the risk more salient. There are no signs of racism or sexism. Other objections are not supported by the film. There is no suggestion that the Buenos Aires attack is a false flag. I've seen people claim it's impossible for the bugs to do this, but it's a film featuring faster-than-light travel. The humans are already doing impossible things, so why can't the bugs? I've also heard complaints that there is no attempt at peace negotiations. There is no suggestion that peace is possible. It's possible among humans because most humans have a strong natural aversion to killing other humans. Real life armed forces have to go to great lengths to desensitize their troops to killing to prevent them from intentionally missing. But humans generally have no qualms about killing bugs, and the bugs in the movie never hesitate to kill humans. The movie is an inspiring story about people making the right choices in a difficult situation. Some people look at it objectively, and some only react to the aesthetics. Those who look objectively understand it's actually faithful to the spirit of the book despite Verhoeven not intending that.
  - hdgvhicv 8mo ago
    The only hung I see about the asteroid was that Carmen’s collision (caused by her showing off) knocked the rock which caused it to hit Earth, where originally it may well have missed. Seems reasonable (although clearly not the intent of the story and not a deliberate “false flag”)
    - kridsdale3 8mo ago
      I don't think the amount of ship that it touched imparted much of a momentum vector for a thing of that mass.

sandworm101 8mo ago

And some extreemist are using fight clubs to gather followers, emulating the movie in the other direction. So-called "active clubs" are springing up using "fitness" to gather young angry males to the cause. Most join without realizing. Even gym owners are surprised to discover thier facilities have become clubhouses. https://www.jfed.net/antisemitismtoolsandresources/neo-nazi-fight-club-groups-spreading-in-canada-investigation-finds https://www.jfed.net/antisemitismtoolsandresources/neo-nazi-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Clubs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Clubs

hackable_sand 8mo ago
It's groomer behavior
tencentshill 8mo ago
Also see: The Art of Self Defense

hydrogen7800 8mo ago

And Scarface was an inspiring rags-to-riches story.

pbhjpbhj 8mo ago

It's said that Starship Troopers failed to do as well in USA because people thought it was pro-fascist propaganda ... it doesn't seem possible that could genuinely be the case.

mrob 8mo ago
Starship Troopers (the movie) is a terrible example of satire because it fails to show anything substantially bad. When you present a society that's more ethical than real life, nobody's going to care if some people wear uniforms that look a bit like Nazi uniforms. There is a genuine existential risk, and it's addressed in the best way possible. Military slavery ("conscription") is more evil than disenfranchisement, especially when citizenship is not required to live a good life. Nobody is tricked or coerced into signing up for military service. Potential recruits are even shown disabled veterans to make the risk more salient. There are no signs of racism or sexism. Other objections are not supported by the film. There is no suggestion that the Buenos Aires attack is a false flag. I've seen people claim it's impossible for the bugs to do this, but it's a film featuring faster-than-light travel. The humans are already doing impossible things, so why can't the bugs? I've also heard complaints that there is no attempt at peace negotiations. There is no suggestion that peace is possible. It's possible among humans because most humans have a strong natural aversion to killing other humans. Real life armed forces have to go to great lengths to desensitize their troops to killing to prevent them from intentionally missing. But humans generally have no qualms about killing bugs, and the bugs in the movie never hesitate to kill humans. The movie is an inspiring story about people making the right choices in a difficult situation. Some people look at it objectively, and some only react to the aesthetics. Those who look objectively understand it's actually faithful to the spirit of the book despite Verhoeven not intending that.
- hdgvhicv 8mo ago
  The only hung I see about the asteroid was that Carmen’s collision (caused by her showing off) knocked the rock which caused it to hit Earth, where originally it may well have missed. Seems reasonable (although clearly not the intent of the story and not a deliberate “false flag”)
  - kridsdale3 8mo ago
    I don't think the amount of ship that it touched imparted much of a momentum vector for a thing of that mass.