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Illness Is Rampant Among Children Trapped in ICE's Jail in Texas

93 points by wahnfrieden 9mo ago

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culi 9mo ago
I strongly suggest people read the ACLU's report, "Resistance, Retaliation, Repression: Two Years in California Immigration Detention". It was published in 2024 but no doubt the issues raised in here have only gotten worse as CoreCivic has expanded its contracts dramatically https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliation-repression-two-years-california-immigration-detention/ https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliati... Some of those issues: - forced labor in order to afford to eat. The $1/day "Voluntary Work Program" is necessary to afford enough food and there is retaliation if you refuse (including solitary confinement). CoreCivic sells this labor to companies - dozens of documented deaths from forced labor and medical neglect - extensive use of solitary confinement often for "minor disciplinary infractions or as a form of retaliation for participating in hunger strikes or for submitting complaints"
- forsalebypwner 9mo ago
  Your link got cut off and 404s, here's the full link: https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliation-repression-two-years-california-immigration-detention/ https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliati...
  - culi 9mo ago
    Thank you! Edited my comment
profdevloper 9mo ago
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- Natfan 9mo ago
  entering the united states illegally is not a criminal offense, it is a civil one
  - profdevloper 9mo ago
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    - wahnfrieden 9mo ago
      Many detainees entered legally
      - profdevloper 9mo ago
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        angoragoats 9mo ago
        Fix your heart.
- drecked 9mo ago
  Wow. What an insane response. “Please don’t come here illegally or we will torture and treat you inhumanely. Oh, also, go back in time and make sure your parents didn’t bring you here illegally either. Also, even if you came here legally at the time you did, we decided you came here illegally in retrospect so too bad. Also, you’re following the law and attending the courts for your case but we will kidnap you so your case can never come to a resolution”.
  - profdevloper 9mo ago
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mlsu 9mo ago
They murdered people in the street in broad daylight. We should not for a second believe that treatment is somehow better in detention, where the cell phones of bystanders are not filming. These detention centers for years have had deaths from "natural causes" that are caused by things like heatstroke, hypothermia.
- skybrian 9mo ago
  This sort of reasoning by analogy is no substitute for reporting on what's actually going on in prisons, which is the article does.
yndoendo 9mo ago
I find those that support this unpalatable. Empathy is humanity and a sign of intelligence.
- nine_zeros 9mo ago
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angoragoats 9mo ago
Not jail. It’s a concentration camp. I would also accept “human warehouse.” But it’s not a jail.
jauntywundrkind 9mo ago
ICE/DHS/the feds are doing everything they can to exploit the fact that different regions have different federal courts, and are shuttling any and everyone they can to Texas. Many of the judges in Texas aren't having it either, but by the numbers game, it's still ICE/DHS's best bet. They're doing this even when the courts demand they do not. There's no pretense what-so-ever of following the law or the courts. Excellent sad thread from today: > And even when we move at warp speed and outpace this regime, DHS doesn’t care. They’ve moved people to Texas hours or days after being enjoined. > When ordered to return them, DHS just… doesn’t. The AUSAs let them: when we notify them of a violation, they send the email equivalent of a shrug. https://bsky.app/profile/mddoogie3.bsky.social/post/3memhtpyg4k2h https://bsky.app/profile/mddoogie3.bsky.social/post/3memhtpy... I was pretty pissed when judge shopping was allowing ridiculous corporate abuse. I'm extra pissed now that it's the feds who have metastasized into this infernal hellspawn cancer, ignoring all laws to reap wanton ruin upon the nation & it's people. 99% of these people deserve their shot at the American Dream.

93 points by wahnfrieden 9mo ago

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culi 9mo ago

I strongly suggest people read the ACLU's report, "Resistance, Retaliation, Repression: Two Years in California Immigration Detention". It was published in 2024 but no doubt the issues raised in here have only gotten worse as CoreCivic has expanded its contracts dramatically https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliation-repression-two-years-california-immigration-detention/ https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliati... Some of those issues: - forced labor in order to afford to eat. The $1/day "Voluntary Work Program" is necessary to afford enough food and there is retaliation if you refuse (including solitary confinement). CoreCivic sells this labor to companies - dozens of documented deaths from forced labor and medical neglect - extensive use of solitary confinement often for "minor disciplinary infractions or as a form of retaliation for participating in hunger strikes or for submitting complaints"

forsalebypwner 9mo ago
Your link got cut off and 404s, here's the full link: https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliation-repression-two-years-california-immigration-detention/ https://www.aclunorcal.org/publications/resistance-retaliati...
- culi 9mo ago
  Thank you! Edited my comment

profdevloper 9mo ago

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Natfan 9mo ago
entering the united states illegally is not a criminal offense, it is a civil one
- profdevloper 9mo ago
  [flagged]
  - wahnfrieden 9mo ago
    Many detainees entered legally
    - profdevloper 9mo ago
      [flagged]
      - angoragoats 9mo ago
        Fix your heart.
drecked 9mo ago
Wow. What an insane response. “Please don’t come here illegally or we will torture and treat you inhumanely. Oh, also, go back in time and make sure your parents didn’t bring you here illegally either. Also, even if you came here legally at the time you did, we decided you came here illegally in retrospect so too bad. Also, you’re following the law and attending the courts for your case but we will kidnap you so your case can never come to a resolution”.
- profdevloper 9mo ago
  [flagged]

mlsu 9mo ago

They murdered people in the street in broad daylight. We should not for a second believe that treatment is somehow better in detention, where the cell phones of bystanders are not filming. These detention centers for years have had deaths from "natural causes" that are caused by things like heatstroke, hypothermia.

skybrian 9mo ago
This sort of reasoning by analogy is no substitute for reporting on what's actually going on in prisons, which is the article does.

yndoendo 9mo ago

I find those that support this unpalatable. Empathy is humanity and a sign of intelligence.

nine_zeros 9mo ago
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angoragoats 9mo ago

Not jail. It’s a concentration camp. I would also accept “human warehouse.” But it’s not a jail.

jauntywundrkind 9mo ago

ICE/DHS/the feds are doing everything they can to exploit the fact that different regions have different federal courts, and are shuttling any and everyone they can to Texas. Many of the judges in Texas aren't having it either, but by the numbers game, it's still ICE/DHS's best bet. They're doing this even when the courts demand they do not. There's no pretense what-so-ever of following the law or the courts. Excellent sad thread from today: > And even when we move at warp speed and outpace this regime, DHS doesn’t care. They’ve moved people to Texas hours or days after being enjoined. > When ordered to return them, DHS just… doesn’t. The AUSAs let them: when we notify them of a violation, they send the email equivalent of a shrug. https://bsky.app/profile/mddoogie3.bsky.social/post/3memhtpyg4k2h https://bsky.app/profile/mddoogie3.bsky.social/post/3memhtpy... I was pretty pissed when judge shopping was allowing ridiculous corporate abuse. I'm extra pissed now that it's the feds who have metastasized into this infernal hellspawn cancer, ignoring all laws to reap wanton ruin upon the nation & it's people. 99% of these people deserve their shot at the American Dream.