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I bought a new salad spinner recently, after having broken yet another one. I’ve had fancy brands like Zyliss and OXO. I’ve had cheap store brand models and c

I bought a new salad spinner recently, after having broken yet another one. I’ve had fancy brands like Zyliss and OXO. I’ve had cheap store brand models and cheaper Amazon MYSSNGVWL type stuff as well. Knowing they would probably break didn’t make it feel better when they eventually broke. Anyway the new salad spinner is large, heavy, with a steel pin into a brass bushing, has a metal handle and nylon gears in a sealed gearbox with exposed stainless screws for servicing. I opened it up and greased it on first use, mostly just to pretend to be servicing it, just to see what that felt like. It felt good! The best part is it came with a catalogue that had order codes for spare parts. They wanted to help you maintain it. It was built to last and the manufacturer was on your side. https://www.dynamicmixers.com/en/our-products/salad-spinner/sealed-manual-salad-spinner-e5sc.html https://www.dynamicmixers.com/en/our-products/salad-spinner/... I’m starting to feel silly writing all this about a salad spinner, but where is my car version of this?

cschmatzler 8mo ago
This won’t fit the usual hate, but.. https://epc.tesla.com https://epc.tesla.com Vast majority of parts can be ordered directly from the catalogue.
- FranklinJabar 8mo ago
  How can you replace the idiotic console and door handles with manageable parts? Is there a sane charging port yet?
  - mavhc 8mo ago
    You want to add a load of buttons? Should be easy enough, just get them to send codes to the computer via the network. Door handles are harder, what do you want to change? Inner or outer? What's insane about the charging port?
    - FranklinJabar 8mo ago
      Great, who can I contact to get this done? > What's insane about the charging port? Well it doesn't work with most charging stations. Maybe it's different in the US.
      - dlcarrier 8mo ago
        Don't they use the same IEC 62196 ports as other EVs, outside the US? They made their own in the US, because the standard SAE J1772 combo port is an unweildy behemoth, then they released the patent into public domain, and the rest of the automotive industry adopted their port into the NACS port, which beats both IEC 62196 and SAE J1772 in available power, all in a much smaller and easier-to-use connector.
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        padjo 8mo ago
        Yeah the 62196-2 connector is standard in Europe. It's not legal to sell cars with a nacs connector and hasn't been for a long time.
      - hnburnsy 8mo ago
        > Great, who can I contact to get this done? Here you go, add as many buttons, dials, knobs, and screens as you like for your Tesla... https://www.enhauto.com/collections https://www.enhauto.com/collections
- tw04 8mo ago
  I mean, the vast majority of parts for the vast majority of cars can be ordered from: https://www.rockauto.com/ https://www.rockauto.com/ Ordering parts feels like less of the issue than the ability to fix and service it yourself. Has tesla started supporting third party shops doing battery replacements for instance?
7bit 8mo ago
Every car manufacturer has a catalog of spare parts you can order. I really don't understand what you're on about with your post.
- fransje26 8mo ago
  That it should be possible for somebody with a reasonable understanding of car maintenance to actually fix or maintain their car instead of having a blob of proprietary nonsense only meant to lock you in and milk your wallet with mandatory dealer repairs and subscriptions.
  - 7bit 8mo ago
    Complexity is the reason your car doesn't drink fuel like people drink water and also the reason there's vastly less severe accidents than 60 years ago.
LeafItAlone 8mo ago
I’ve had a cheap (was $15) single salad spinner, for about 15 years. Decent amount of usage in that time, but not professional level. So my question to you is: what the heck are you doing to your salad spinners?
- tgrowazay 8mo ago
  If you spin low-grade uranium ore just right, the heavier particles will deposit on the edges, giving you high-grade uranium.
  - testdelacc1 8mo ago
    Please follow HN rules that forbid nuclear proliferation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
stonogo 8mo ago
https://www.worldpac.com/ https://www.worldpac.com/
grugdev42 8mo ago
The car version of this stopped being produced 15 years ago. Old petrol Toyotas and Hondas met your criteria. And the back catalogue of parts is huge and supported for a long time. Modern cars aren't built as well. Maybe the modern non-turbo petrol Mazdas are the best fallback.
- bobchadwick 8mo ago
  Modern cars aren't built as well. Can you cite a source for this? There's no question that they're vastly more complex, but I would think that modern car manufacturing is far more exacting (and efficient) than in the past. If you're saying that older cars are more repairable, I'm happy to agree with you, even without a source to back up that claim.
  - alberto467 8mo ago
    Efficient manufacturing means exactly building stuff as cheaply as you can get away with. There's a reason why roman architecture is still standing: it is massively overbuilt, the very opposite of efficient (they also used to make the architect stand under his own arches as they removed the temporary support, that could have contributed to the overbuilding).
    - ponector 8mo ago
      >> roman architecture is still standing Is it? Every city in Roman empire had temples and forum. Where are they still standing? Maybe half a dozen survived, like pantheon in Rome or temple in Nimes, but it's extremely rare. Maybe they weren't overbuilt at all?
  - PatentlyDC123 8mo ago
    It seems like you both are looking at different definitions of built well. One pertaining to how well the car will perform over its lifetime. The other describing the build process. Not necessarily exclusionary, but different.
  - vgeek 8mo ago
closingreunion 8mo ago
The [Slate Truck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_Truck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_Truck) seems to be marketing itself with this in mind. But it's backed by Jeff Bezos, so proceed with caution.
baq 8mo ago
Also if you’re dealing with sensitive information intelligence agencies can’t hack your car to go 100% on the throttle in a suburb. (Not sure if this is relevant in any way to salad spinners, though.)
ragazzina 8mo ago
>Fast and efficient, it respects the product’s fragility. >Heavy duty construction for an intensive daily use. Wait is it fragile or is it heavy duty? I guess they used "product" instead of "produce".
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mschaef 8mo ago
That's a $125 salad spinner... I get the appeal, but it's definitely a premium product.
simonsarris 8mo ago
> but where is my car version of this? It's the status quo? Cars last longer than they ever have in history. In 2 decades average age of cars on the road increased from 9.5 to 14.5. They are a little more difficult to maintain for the home mechanic because they are packed with electronics, but what you want seems to exist perfectly. Many use timing chains instead of timing belts that last 20+ years. Radiators rarely crack whereas they used to all the time. Alternators last the life of the vehicle. Cars are often upgraded because the owner is bored or does not feel like paying for rust repair at the 15 year mark, more than unfixable problems.
antasvara 8mo ago
That's a salad spinner with a price of ~4x the cost of the OXO one. Would you buy a new car that cost 150,000 dollars?
insane_dreamer 8mo ago
1980s Volvo
kylehotchkiss 8mo ago
Say MYSSNGVWL 10 times fast
AH4oFVbPT4f8 8mo ago
While I can't help you with a car, I share your desire of wanting things with replaceable parts, so I leave you with this, the coffee maker version your salad spinner, https://us.moccamaster.com https://us.moccamaster.com. All parts replaceable.
- gorgoiler 8mo ago
  I ‘ave already got one!
- dgently7 8mo ago
  espresso machines are maybe in a different class of "coffee maker" but it seems like even the cheapest of those is pretty easy to service/repair/source parts. or in some cases even upgrade to improve capabilities... I did the gaggiauino mod to my gaggia classic and basically everything in there is just pipes and wires... the most complicated single part on the original is the vibratory pump. I'm pretty sure i could keep that same machine going indefinitely with access to parts.
screye 8mo ago
2 reasons Electronics and code ruined replaced pure mechanics. Components aren't physically maintainable or hot-swappable, because they aren't just physically connected. Second is that maintenance is how dealerships make money, so there is a monetary incentive to make it seem esoteric. For your purposes, the upcoming slate truck is closest analogue - https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en

cschmatzler 8mo ago

This won’t fit the usual hate, but.. https://epc.tesla.com https://epc.tesla.com Vast majority of parts can be ordered directly from the catalogue.

FranklinJabar 8mo ago
How can you replace the idiotic console and door handles with manageable parts? Is there a sane charging port yet?
- mavhc 8mo ago
  You want to add a load of buttons? Should be easy enough, just get them to send codes to the computer via the network. Door handles are harder, what do you want to change? Inner or outer? What's insane about the charging port?
  - FranklinJabar 8mo ago
    Great, who can I contact to get this done? > What's insane about the charging port? Well it doesn't work with most charging stations. Maybe it's different in the US.
    - dlcarrier 8mo ago
      Don't they use the same IEC 62196 ports as other EVs, outside the US? They made their own in the US, because the standard SAE J1772 combo port is an unweildy behemoth, then they released the patent into public domain, and the rest of the automotive industry adopted their port into the NACS port, which beats both IEC 62196 and SAE J1772 in available power, all in a much smaller and easier-to-use connector.
      - deleted 8mo ago
        [deleted]
      - padjo 8mo ago
        Yeah the 62196-2 connector is standard in Europe. It's not legal to sell cars with a nacs connector and hasn't been for a long time.
    - hnburnsy 8mo ago
      > Great, who can I contact to get this done? Here you go, add as many buttons, dials, knobs, and screens as you like for your Tesla... https://www.enhauto.com/collections https://www.enhauto.com/collections
tw04 8mo ago
I mean, the vast majority of parts for the vast majority of cars can be ordered from: https://www.rockauto.com/ https://www.rockauto.com/ Ordering parts feels like less of the issue than the ability to fix and service it yourself. Has tesla started supporting third party shops doing battery replacements for instance?

7bit 8mo ago

Every car manufacturer has a catalog of spare parts you can order. I really don't understand what you're on about with your post.

fransje26 8mo ago
That it should be possible for somebody with a reasonable understanding of car maintenance to actually fix or maintain their car instead of having a blob of proprietary nonsense only meant to lock you in and milk your wallet with mandatory dealer repairs and subscriptions.
- 7bit 8mo ago
  Complexity is the reason your car doesn't drink fuel like people drink water and also the reason there's vastly less severe accidents than 60 years ago.

LeafItAlone 8mo ago

I’ve had a cheap (was $15) single salad spinner, for about 15 years. Decent amount of usage in that time, but not professional level. So my question to you is: what the heck are you doing to your salad spinners?

tgrowazay 8mo ago
If you spin low-grade uranium ore just right, the heavier particles will deposit on the edges, giving you high-grade uranium.
- testdelacc1 8mo ago
  Please follow HN rules that forbid nuclear proliferation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

stonogo 8mo ago

https://www.worldpac.com/ https://www.worldpac.com/

grugdev42 8mo ago

The car version of this stopped being produced 15 years ago. Old petrol Toyotas and Hondas met your criteria. And the back catalogue of parts is huge and supported for a long time. Modern cars aren't built as well. Maybe the modern non-turbo petrol Mazdas are the best fallback.

bobchadwick 8mo ago
Modern cars aren't built as well. Can you cite a source for this? There's no question that they're vastly more complex, but I would think that modern car manufacturing is far more exacting (and efficient) than in the past. If you're saying that older cars are more repairable, I'm happy to agree with you, even without a source to back up that claim.
- alberto467 8mo ago
  Efficient manufacturing means exactly building stuff as cheaply as you can get away with. There's a reason why roman architecture is still standing: it is massively overbuilt, the very opposite of efficient (they also used to make the architect stand under his own arches as they removed the temporary support, that could have contributed to the overbuilding).
  - ponector 8mo ago
    >> roman architecture is still standing Is it? Every city in Roman empire had temples and forum. Where are they still standing? Maybe half a dozen survived, like pantheon in Rome or temple in Nimes, but it's extremely rare. Maybe they weren't overbuilt at all?
- PatentlyDC123 8mo ago
  It seems like you both are looking at different definitions of built well. One pertaining to how well the car will perform over its lifetime. The other describing the build process. Not necessarily exclusionary, but different.
- vgeek 8mo ago

closingreunion 8mo ago

The [Slate Truck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_Truck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_Truck) seems to be marketing itself with this in mind. But it's backed by Jeff Bezos, so proceed with caution.

baq 8mo ago

Also if you’re dealing with sensitive information intelligence agencies can’t hack your car to go 100% on the throttle in a suburb. (Not sure if this is relevant in any way to salad spinners, though.)

ragazzina 8mo ago

>Fast and efficient, it respects the product’s fragility. >Heavy duty construction for an intensive daily use. Wait is it fragile or is it heavy duty? I guess they used "product" instead of "produce".

deleted 8mo ago

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mschaef 8mo ago

That's a $125 salad spinner... I get the appeal, but it's definitely a premium product.

simonsarris 8mo ago

> but where is my car version of this? It's the status quo? Cars last longer than they ever have in history. In 2 decades average age of cars on the road increased from 9.5 to 14.5. They are a little more difficult to maintain for the home mechanic because they are packed with electronics, but what you want seems to exist perfectly. Many use timing chains instead of timing belts that last 20+ years. Radiators rarely crack whereas they used to all the time. Alternators last the life of the vehicle. Cars are often upgraded because the owner is bored or does not feel like paying for rust repair at the 15 year mark, more than unfixable problems.

antasvara 8mo ago

That's a salad spinner with a price of ~4x the cost of the OXO one. Would you buy a new car that cost 150,000 dollars?

insane_dreamer 8mo ago

1980s Volvo

kylehotchkiss 8mo ago

Say MYSSNGVWL 10 times fast

AH4oFVbPT4f8 8mo ago

While I can't help you with a car, I share your desire of wanting things with replaceable parts, so I leave you with this, the coffee maker version your salad spinner, https://us.moccamaster.com https://us.moccamaster.com. All parts replaceable.

gorgoiler 8mo ago
I ‘ave already got one!
dgently7 8mo ago
espresso machines are maybe in a different class of "coffee maker" but it seems like even the cheapest of those is pretty easy to service/repair/source parts. or in some cases even upgrade to improve capabilities... I did the gaggiauino mod to my gaggia classic and basically everything in there is just pipes and wires... the most complicated single part on the original is the vibratory pump. I'm pretty sure i could keep that same machine going indefinitely with access to parts.

screye 8mo ago

2 reasons Electronics and code ruined replaced pure mechanics. Components aren't physically maintainable or hot-swappable, because they aren't just physically connected. Second is that maintenance is how dealerships make money, so there is a monetary incentive to make it seem esoteric. For your purposes, the upcoming slate truck is closest analogue - https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en