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Yes, for most part. SG has a zero tolerance policy. I do think the death penalty for drugs is reasonable. Drug dealers destroy families and communities for the
by shell0x 8mo ago
Yes, for most part. SG has a zero tolerance policy.
I do think the death penalty for drugs is reasonable. Drug dealers destroy families and communities for their own profit. The arrival card in Singapore literally states that smuggling drugs is punishable by death. If you still attempt, that sounds like a “you” problem.
Also the punishment for vandalism or rape sounds reasonable.
The treatment of foreign construction workers is not good and can be improved.
- JCattheATM 8mo ago> I do think the death penalty for drugs is reasonable. Well, it's not. It's barbaric and primitive. A warning is no justification.
- dblohm7 8mo ago> Well, it's not. It's barbaric and primitive. A warning is no justification. It's actually Singapore that turned me against the death penalty. I saw a photo on a news site one day showing a casket in Singapore, with some kind of placard showing the decedent's name, DOB, and then the date that they "died." They didn't die due to illness or injury; they died because Singapore executed them. That was it for me.
- acoard 8mo agoExecuting people guilty of serious crimes is good and just. They should have a proper trial, and the crimes should be sufficiently serious, but execution is no more or less "barbaric" than the alternatives. As Adam Smith said, "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent."
- JCattheATM 8mo ago> Executing people guilty of serious crimes is good and just. Wrong. It's barbaric and primitive. > execution is no more or less "barbaric" than the alternatives Yes, it is. People make mistakes. People have infinite possibility to grow, change and contribute to society. Snuffing everything someone is out because of an arbitrary society rule that ultimately does less harm than murder is indefensible. > "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." Taken as far to defend murder it becomes nonsense.
- shell0x 8mo agoRape, murder, drug smuggling, terrorism are not mistakes you accidentally make. These are serious crimes destroying lives and the offenders do not deserve a second chance. It’s also a repellent.
- JCattheATM 8mo agoDrug smuggling doesn't always destroy lives, sometimes it's just giving people something that shouldn't be illegal in the first place. Rape can very much be a crime of passion and a mistake. Terrorism can be the result of indoctrination. Rape while less likely to be a mistake also doesn't deserve the death penalty. Yes, all these offenders deserve a second chance. Extreme penalties to set a deterrent are not justice. Just barbarism. Very primitive people.
- HighGoldstein 8mo ago> Wrong. It's barbaric and primitive. Source? > Yes, it is. People make mistakes. People have infinite possibility to grow, change and contribute to society. Snuffing everything someone is out because of an arbitrary society rule that ultimately does less harm than murder is indefensible. Putting aside statistics on actual reform instead of fantastical infinite possibility, as I understand this policy mostly serves to deter foreigners from attempting the potentially very lucrative business of smuggling drugs into Singapore. Even if Singapore didn't take the "barbaric" approach of executing them, they would have to either host them as prisoners on their already very limited land, or go through the process of deporting them to their home country, where they might not even face any consequences and just try again. Why should they bear this burden for people who have no ties to Singapore and will never contribute anything to it?
- JCattheATM 8mo ago> Source? Do you know what an opinion is? > as I understand this policy mostly serves to deter foreigners from attempting the potentially very lucrative business of smuggling drugs into Singapore. So what? That's not a justification. > Why should they bear this burden for people who have no ties to Singapore and will never contribute anything to it? Singapore is perfectly able to control their borders better than most countries. It's not like the US where it's relatively easy to sneak in. 'They might come back' is a poor justification for murder.
- GeoAtreides 8mo agoThere is saying in The Culture that money is a sign of poverty. There should also be (and probably is in a culture that has drone slapping), that death penalty is a sign of moral bankruptcy.
- allarm 8mo ago> execution is no more or less "barbaric" than the alternatives. You'll need to put more thought into it. Imagine your kid traveling somewhere, smoking pot, flying back to Singapore, getting randomly checked and facing consequences.
- shell0x 8mo agoThey don’t execute your kid for smoking pot. “Any Singapore Citizen or Permanent Resident found to have abused drugs overseas will be treated as if he/she had abused drugs within Singapore. Consumption of a controlled drug is an offence and a person may face imprisonment of a minimum of 1 year and up to 10 years, or a fine not exceeding S$20,000 or both.”
- lazide 8mo agoAh, ‘tolerance’.
- JCattheATM 8mo agoI have no tolerance for blatantly unethical activities, things or people.
- lazide 8mo agoSounds impossible.
- JCattheATM 8mo agoHardly.
- lazide 8mo agoAnd yet, reality disagrees.
- JCattheATM 8mo agoHardly.
- lazide 8mo agoCompelling. I can’t wait for your online master course.
- JCattheATM 8mo agoIt's as compelling a response as your original refutation deserved.
- HighGoldstein 8mo agoDefine unethical.