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You are completely incorrect. An Employment Authorization Document, which he is referring to, does not imply or confer ANY immigration status.

by 0xy 8mo ago

nextaccountic 8mo ago
https://universityfinance.richmond.edu/payroll/international/employment/authorization.html https://universityfinance.richmond.edu/payroll/international... An EAD gives a person legal status to work in the United States but has fewer privileges than a green card.
- 0xy 8mo ago
  Again, completely false. An EAD does not issue ANY immigration status, period. He had no legal status prior to marriage and still has no legal status because he has no green card and has racked up 20 years of overstay. EADs are not issued to people with immigration status (eg. citizens or permanent residents). It is ONLY issued to those with no status.
  - reverius42 8mo ago
    If "immigration" and "work authorization" are two completely different things, are you claiming that everyone in the US on a work visa is an "illegal immigrant"? Surely "having work authorization" counts as some kind of legal status or we wouldn't have people on work visas at all.
    - 0xy 8mo ago
      I made no such claim. I explicitly said that an EAD implies no legal status in itself. A pending Adjustment of Status does not provide legal status, either. If you already had a massive overstay, and your Adjustment of Status was likely to be denied due to ineligibility, and you have an order of removal, you're going home, of course. And as we now know, the Irish man in question: - Entered under VWP, which EXPLICITLY bars any form of status adjustment - Filed a Habeas Corpus petition, which was denied by a judge - Has a final order of removal, signed by a judge, not an administrator In fact, you need to just take a look at the back of an EAD card. It explicitly states it is not evidence of status. This guy is a weird hill for you to die on. He overstayed TWENTY YEARS and immigration courts, which are known to be far more lenient, have denied his ridiculous arguments to stay.
      - reverius42 8mo ago
        I'm not dying on any hill! Sorry, I just misunderstood your point the first time. Thank you for clarifying.
        0xy 8mo ago
        The same Irish man left Ireland because he was facing drug charges. I guess now we know why he overstayed 20 years, he fled Irish police.
SpicyLemonZest 8mo ago
From what I can tell you're right, but this seems like it's 100% the fault of the United States and 0% his. Why would you issue a document certifying authorization to work in the United States that does not imply authorization to be in the United States?

You are completely incorrect. An Employment Authorization Document, which he is referring to, does not imply or confer ANY immigration status.

by 0xy 8mo ago

You are completely incorrect. An Employment Authorization Document, which he is referring to, does not imply or confer ANY immigration status.

nextaccountic 8mo ago

https://universityfinance.richmond.edu/payroll/international/employment/authorization.html https://universityfinance.richmond.edu/payroll/international... An EAD gives a person legal status to work in the United States but has fewer privileges than a green card.

0xy 8mo ago
Again, completely false. An EAD does not issue ANY immigration status, period. He had no legal status prior to marriage and still has no legal status because he has no green card and has racked up 20 years of overstay. EADs are not issued to people with immigration status (eg. citizens or permanent residents). It is ONLY issued to those with no status.
- reverius42 8mo ago
  If "immigration" and "work authorization" are two completely different things, are you claiming that everyone in the US on a work visa is an "illegal immigrant"? Surely "having work authorization" counts as some kind of legal status or we wouldn't have people on work visas at all.
  - 0xy 8mo ago
    I made no such claim. I explicitly said that an EAD implies no legal status in itself. A pending Adjustment of Status does not provide legal status, either. If you already had a massive overstay, and your Adjustment of Status was likely to be denied due to ineligibility, and you have an order of removal, you're going home, of course. And as we now know, the Irish man in question: - Entered under VWP, which EXPLICITLY bars any form of status adjustment - Filed a Habeas Corpus petition, which was denied by a judge - Has a final order of removal, signed by a judge, not an administrator In fact, you need to just take a look at the back of an EAD card. It explicitly states it is not evidence of status. This guy is a weird hill for you to die on. He overstayed TWENTY YEARS and immigration courts, which are known to be far more lenient, have denied his ridiculous arguments to stay.
    - reverius42 8mo ago
      I'm not dying on any hill! Sorry, I just misunderstood your point the first time. Thank you for clarifying.
      - 0xy 8mo ago
        The same Irish man left Ireland because he was facing drug charges. I guess now we know why he overstayed 20 years, he fled Irish police.

SpicyLemonZest 8mo ago

From what I can tell you're right, but this seems like it's 100% the fault of the United States and 0% his. Why would you issue a document certifying authorization to work in the United States that does not imply authorization to be in the United States?