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I switched back to 4.5 Sonnet or Opus yesterday since 4.6 was so slow and often “over thinking” or “over analyzing” the problem space. Tasks which accurately to

by jweir 8mo ago

I switched back to 4.5 Sonnet or Opus yesterday since 4.6 was so slow and often “over thinking” or “over analyzing” the problem space. Tasks which accurately took under an minute in Sonnet 4.5 were still running after 5 minutes in 4.6 (yeah I had them race for a few tasks) Someone of this could be system overload I suppose.

stefan_ 8mo ago
Yeah, nothing is sped up, their initial deployment of 4.6 is so unbearably slow they are just now offering you the opportunity to pay more for the same experience of 4.5. What's the word for that?
- coldtea 8mo ago
  [flagged]
- christophilus 8mo ago
  Enslopification.
fy20 8mo ago
They mentioned in the release notes if it's over-thinking you should decrease the reasoning effort.
HumanOstrich 8mo ago
Edit ~/.claude/settings.json and add "effortLevel": "medium". Alternatively, you can put it in .claude/settings.json in a project if you want to try it out first. They recommend this in the announcement[1], but the way they suggest doing it is via a bogus /effort command that doesn't exist. See [2] for full details about thinking effort. It also recommends a bogus way to change effort by using the arrow keys when selecting a model, so don't use that either. [1]: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6 [2]: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/model-config#adjust-effort-level https://code.claude.com/docs/en/model-config#adjust-effort-l...
- saulpw 8mo ago
  what? Their documentation is hallucinated?
  - HumanOstrich 8mo ago
    Yep, and their documentation AI assistant will egregiously hallucinate whatever it thinks you want to hear, then repeat itself in a loop when you tell it that it's wrong.
    - oefrha 8mo ago
      Yesterday I asked a question about a Claude Code setting inside Claude Code, don't recall which, and their builtin documentation skill—something like that—ended up doing a web search and found a wrong answer on a third party site. Later I went to their documentation site and it was right there in the docs. Wonder why they can't bundle an AI-friendly version of their own docs (can't be more than a few hundred KBs compressed?) inside their 174MB executable.
      - rubenflamshep 8mo ago
        They used to? I have a distinct memory of it doing exactly that a few months ago. Maybe it got dropped in the mad dash that passes for CC sprint cycles
      - siva7 8mo ago
        It's insane that they concluded the builtin introspection skill for claude documentation should do a web search instead of simply packing the correct documentation in local files. I had the same experience like you, wasting tokens and my time because their architecture decision doesn't work in practice. I have to google the correct Anthropic documentation and pass that link to claude code because claude isn't able to do the same reliably in order to know how to use its own features.
        HumanOstrich 8mo ago

by jweir 8mo ago

stefan_ 8mo ago

Yeah, nothing is sped up, their initial deployment of 4.6 is so unbearably slow they are just now offering you the opportunity to pay more for the same experience of 4.5. What's the word for that?

coldtea 8mo ago
[flagged]
christophilus 8mo ago
Enslopification.

fy20 8mo ago

They mentioned in the release notes if it's over-thinking you should decrease the reasoning effort.

HumanOstrich 8mo ago

Edit ~/.claude/settings.json and add "effortLevel": "medium". Alternatively, you can put it in .claude/settings.json in a project if you want to try it out first. They recommend this in the announcement[1], but the way they suggest doing it is via a bogus /effort command that doesn't exist. See [2] for full details about thinking effort. It also recommends a bogus way to change effort by using the arrow keys when selecting a model, so don't use that either. [1]: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6 [2]: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/model-config#adjust-effort-level https://code.claude.com/docs/en/model-config#adjust-effort-l...

saulpw 8mo ago
what? Their documentation is hallucinated?
- HumanOstrich 8mo ago
  Yep, and their documentation AI assistant will egregiously hallucinate whatever it thinks you want to hear, then repeat itself in a loop when you tell it that it's wrong.
  - oefrha 8mo ago
    Yesterday I asked a question about a Claude Code setting inside Claude Code, don't recall which, and their builtin documentation skill—something like that—ended up doing a web search and found a wrong answer on a third party site. Later I went to their documentation site and it was right there in the docs. Wonder why they can't bundle an AI-friendly version of their own docs (can't be more than a few hundred KBs compressed?) inside their 174MB executable.
    - rubenflamshep 8mo ago
      They used to? I have a distinct memory of it doing exactly that a few months ago. Maybe it got dropped in the mad dash that passes for CC sprint cycles
    - siva7 8mo ago
      It's insane that they concluded the builtin introspection skill for claude documentation should do a web search instead of simply packing the correct documentation in local files. I had the same experience like you, wasting tokens and my time because their architecture decision doesn't work in practice. I have to google the correct Anthropic documentation and pass that link to claude code because claude isn't able to do the same reliably in order to know how to use its own features.
      - HumanOstrich 8mo ago