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I was once in a waymo stopped at a red light. Prior to the light turning green I felt a split second where the car's brake had been released, anticipating the c
by tengbretson 8mo ago
I was once in a waymo stopped at a red light. Prior to the light turning green I felt a split second where the car's brake had been released, anticipating the change and then accelerating immediately when the light changed.
Since this experience I've just assumed all waymos have some warehoused human drone pilot actually controlling it.
- akanet 8mo agoWaymo remote operators cannot drive the car
- slim 8mo agohow do you know ?
- rcxdude 8mo agoIt would be a certifiably insane model with the latency and failure modes involved, for a start.
- galkk 8mo agoPhysics. Have you ever played a competitive/reaction based video game with high ping? It is very, very hard. And it’s a game, where there are many tricks to hide latency from you. Cloud console shows pings between Google data centers in us-west and ones that are in proximity of Philippines around 160-200ms. Then you also have inherent lag of wireless connection itself. Then you have also connectivity from google’s data center to Philippines. If you want remote driving in uncontrolled environment, you reasonably can expect only the same city/county operators. I’m obviously uninformed, but I’d expect the remote operators job (from another country) to be like “car is safe to proceed, based on that picture that I see” or, in the worst case scenario, put some waypoints in the ui and let car drive on its own.
- hackable_sand 8mo agoThankfully technology hasn't advanced since 2010!
- keeda 8mo agoSure, technology has advanced by leaps and bounds, but we haven't quite figured out how to exeed the speed of light just yet ;-)
- thebruce87m 8mo agoThere are many other possibilities such as the system having learned the timings or another vehicle in the fleet observing the lights turn red at the other part of the junction. The least likely possibility is a person controlling the vehicle directly over a variable latency connection that may fail completely at any time.
- thenthenthen 8mo agoBehind all the new smart city tech I encountered here in Shenzhen and Shanghai are actually human operators (drones, cars, vending machines). You can find the job ads online.
- thebruce87m 8mo agoI’m sure there are, but direct remote control of throttle, brakes etc in vehicles is _hopefully_ not part of that. I could see certain situations where it could be authorised when a vehicle is stranded and unable to operate autonomously at all due to an error, but it would have to be extremely slow speed with a full-stop failsale on connection drop or high-latency detection. That said I bet there are some who do not consider the safety implications and “move fast and break people”
- rcxdude 8mo agoWhy would you assume this from that experience?
- Marsymars 8mo ago> I was once in a waymo stopped at a red light. Prior to the light turning green I felt a split second where the car's brake had been released, anticipating the change and then accelerating immediately when the light changed. This seems like it would be fairly straightforward to program, if not for all lights, at least for a lot (e.g. say half) of lights.