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It's weird to see the expectation that the result should be perfect. All said and done, that its even possible is remarkable. Maybe these all go into training

• minimaxir 8mo ago
  A symptom of the increasing backlash against generative AI (both in creative industries and in coding) is that any flaw in the resulting product is predicate to call it AI slop, even if it's very explicitly upfront that it's an experimental demo/proof of concept and not the NEXT BIG THING being hyped by influencers. That nuance is dead even outside of social media.
  • stonogo 8mo ago
    AI companies set that expectation when their CEOs ran around telling anyone who would listen that their product is a generational paradigm shift that will completely restructure both labor markets and human cognition itself. There is no nuance in their own PR, so why should they benefit from any when their product can't meet those expectations?
    • minimaxir 8mo ago
      Because it leads to poor and nonconstructive discourse that doesn't educate anyone about the implications of the tech, which is expected on social media but has annoyingly leaked to Hacker News. There's been more than enough drive-by comments from new accounts/green names even in this HN submission alone.
      • krupan 8mo ago
        It does lead to poor non-constructive discourse. That's why we keep calling those CEOs to task on it. Why are you not?
        • dwaltrip 8mo ago
          The CEOs aren't here in the comments.
          • LinXitoW 8mo ago
            Which is why we ought to always bring up their BS every time people try to pretend it didn't happen. The promises made are ABSOLUTELY relevant to how promising or not these experiments are.
            • pertymcpert 8mo ago
              I bet you get upset when you buy a new iPhone and don't love it, because Tim Cook said on the ad that they think you're going to love it.
              • emp17344 8mo ago
                It cannot be overstated how absurd the marketing campaign for AI was. OpenAI and Anthropic have convinced half the world that AI is going to become a literal god. They deserve to eat a lot of shit for those outright lies.
      • amlib 8mo ago
        It's not just social media, it's IRL too. Maybe the general population will be willing to have a more constructive discussions about this tech once the trillion dollar companies stop pillaging everything they see in front of them and cease acting like sociopaths whose only objectives seem to be concentrating power, generating dissidence and harvesting wealth.
• regularfry 8mo ago
  This is firmly where I am. "The wonder is not how well the dog dances, it is that it dances at all."
  • the8472 8mo ago
    "It's like if a squirrel started playing chess and instead of "holy shit this squirrel can play chess!" most people responded with "But his elo rating sucks""
    • knollimar 8mo ago
      I'm not trying to get coached in chess by the squirrel for 200 per month though.
    • amlib 8mo ago
      But the Squirrel is only playing chess because someone stuffed the pieces with food and it has learned that the only way to release it is by moving them around in some weird patterns.
    • LinXitoW 8mo ago
      It's more like "We were promised, over and over again, that the squirrel would be autonomous grand master level. We spent insane amounts of money, labour, and opportunity costs of human progress on this. Now, here's a very expensive squirrel, that still needs guidance from a human grandmaster, and most of it's moves are just replications of existing games. Oh, it also can't move the pieces by itself, so it depends on Piece Mover library."
      • potsandpans 8mo ago
        My opinion: you are critiquing electricity because the candles are still better / more affordable / more honestly made. You seem to be mad that companies are in the business of selling us things. It's the way this whole thing works. If you don't think this is impressive: stop everything you're doing and go make a c compiler that can build the Linux kernel.
• viccis 8mo ago
  >It's weird to see the expectation that the result should be perfect. Given that they spent $20k on it and it's basically just advertising targeted at convincing greedy execs to fire as many of us as they can, yeah it should be fucking perfect.