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I do not trust the AI benchmarks much, they often do not line up with my experience. That said ... I do think Codex 5.2 was the best coding model for more comp
by the_duke 8mo ago
I do not trust the AI benchmarks much, they often do not line up with my experience.
That said ... I do think Codex 5.2 was the best coding model for more complex tasks, albeit quite slow.
So very much looking forward to trying out 5.3.
- NitpickLawyer 8mo agoJust some anecdata++ here but I found 5.2 to be really good at code review. So I can have something crunched by cheaper models, reviewed async by codex and then re-prompt with the findings from the review. It finds good things, doesn't flag nits (if prompted not to) and the overall flow is worth it for me. Speed loss doesn't impact this flow that much.
- kilroy123 8mo agoPersonally, I have Claude do the coding. Then 5.2-high do the reviewing.
- seunosewa 8mo agoThen I pass the review back to Claude Opus to implement it.
- VladVladikoff 8mo agoJust curious is this a manual process or you guys have automated these steps?
- ricketycricket 8mo agoI have a `codex-review` skill with a shell script that uses the Codex CLI with a prompt. It tells Claude to use Codex as a review partner and to push back if it disagrees. They will go through 3 or 4 back-and-forth iterations some times before they find consensus. It's not perfect, but it does help because Claude will point out the things Codex found and give it credit.
- bryanlarsen 8mo agoMind sharing the skill/prompt?
- dror 8mo agoNot the OP, but I use the same approach. https://gist.github.com/drorm/7851e6ee84a263c8bad743b037fb7abc https://gist.github.com/drorm/7851e6ee84a263c8bad743b037fb7a... I typically use github issues as the unit of work, so that's part of my instruction.
- _zoltan_ 8mo agozen-mcp (now called pal-mcp I think) and then claude code can actually just pass things to gemini (or any other model)
- kilroy123 8mo agoSometimes, depends on how big of a task. I just find 5.2 so slow.
- _zoltan_ 8mo agoI have Opus 4.5 do everything then review it with Gemini 3.
- mmaunder 8mo agoI might flip that given how hard it's been for Claude to deal with longer context tasks like a coding session with iterations vs a single top down diff review.
- StephenHerlihyy 8mo agoI don’t use OpenAI too much, but I follow a similar work flow. Use Opus for design/architecture work. Move it to Sonnet for implementation and build out. Then finally over to Gemini for review, QC and standards check. There is an absolute gain in using different models. Each has their own style and way of solving the problem just like a human team. It’s kind of awesome and crazy and a bit scary all at once.
- readyforbrunch 8mo agoHow do you orchestrate this workflow? Do you define different skills that all use different models, or something else?
- nitroedge 8mo agoYou should check out the PAL MCP and then also use this process, its super solid: https://github.com/glittercowboy/get-shit-done https://github.com/glittercowboy/get-shit-done The way "Phases" are handled is incredible with research then planning, then execution and no context rot because behind the scenes everything is being saved in a State.md file... I'm on Phase 41 of my own project and the reliability and almost absence of any error is amazing. Investigate and see if its a fit for you. The PAL MCP you can setup to have Gemini with its large context review what Claude codes.
- jahsome 8mo agoAnother day, another hn thread of "this model changes everything" followed immediately by a reply stating "actually I have the literal opposite experience and find competitor's model is the best" repeated until it's time to start the next day's thread.
- malshe 8mo agoThis pretty accurately summarizes all the long discussions about AI models on HN.
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- BoredPositron 8mo agoWhen you keep his ramblings on twitter or company blog in mind I bet he is a shit poster here.
- locknitpicker 8mo ago> All anonymous as well. Who are making these claims? script kiddies? sr devs? Altman? You can take off your tinfoil hat. The same models can perform differently depending on the programming language, frameworks and libraries employed, and even project. Also, context does matter, and a model's output greatly varies depending on your prompt history.
- andrepd 8mo agoIt's hardly tinfoil to understand that companies riding a multi-trillion dollar funding wave would spend a few pennies astroturfing their shit on hn. Or overfit to benchmarks that people take as objective measurements.
- nocman 8mo ago> Who are making these claims? script kiddies? sr devs? Altman? AI agents, perhaps? :-D
- fooker 8mo agoYeah, these benchmarks are bogus. Every new model overfits to the latest overhyped benchmark. Someone should take this to a logical extreme and train a tiny model that scores better on a specific benchmark.
- mrandish 8mo ago> Yeah, these benchmarks are bogus. It's not just over-fitting to leading benchmarks, there's also too many degrees of freedom in how a model is tested (harness, etc). Until there's standardized documentation enabling independent replication, it's all just benchmarketing .
- scoring1774 8mo agoThis has been done: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.04871v1 https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.04871v1
- bunderbunder 8mo agoAll shared machine learning benchmarks are a little bit bogus, for a really “machine learning 101” reason: your test set only yields an unbiased performance metric if you agree to only use it once. But that just isn’t a realistic way to use a shared benchmark. Using them repeatedly is kind of the whole point. But even an imperfect yardstick is better than no yardstick at all. You’ve just got to remember to maintain a healthy level of skepticism is all.
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- aurareturn 8mo ago5.2 Codex became my default coding model. It “feels” smarter than Opus 4.5. I use 5.2 Codex for the entire task, then ask Opus 4.5 at the end to double check the work. It's nice to have another frontier model's opinion and ask it to spot any potential issues. Looking forward to trying 5.3.
- koakuma-chan 8mo agoOpus 4.5 is more creative and better at making UIs
- hypercube33 8mo agoUnless it's scroll bar theming then my God it's bad. it told me it gives up. Gemini 3 got stuck but the right prompt it did work.
- nerdsniper 8mo agoOpus 4.5 still worked better for most of my work, which is generally "weird stuff". A lot of my programming involves concepts that are a bit brain-melting for LLMs, because multiple "99% of the time, assumption X is correct" are reversed for my project. I think Opus does better at not falling into those traps. Excited to try out 5.3
- nubg 8mo agowhat do you do?
- audience_mem 8mo agoHe works on brain-melting stuff, the understanding of which is far beyond us.
- nerdsniper 8mo agoIt's relatively easy for people to grok, if a bit niche. Just sometimes confuses LLMs. Humans are much better at holding space for rare exceptions to usual rules than LLMs are.
- mmaunder 8mo agoARG-AGI-2 leaderboard has a strong correlation with my Rust/CUDA coding experience with the models.
- int_19h 8mo agoCodex 5.3 seems to be a lot chattier. As in, it comments in the chat about things it has done or is about to do. They don't show up as "thinking" CoT blocks, but as regular outputs, but overall the experience is somewhat more like Claude is in that you can spot the problems in model's reasoning much earlier if you keep an eye on it as it works, and steer it away.