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ICE Begins Buying 'Mega' Warehouse Detention Centers Across US
- Klaster_1 8mo agoGulag.
- saubeidl 8mo agoI think concentration camp is the more apt comparison.
- defrost 8mo agoMeasles Has Now Begun To Infect Immigrant Detention Camps It’s darkly funny, in a way, to recall a racist trope that gets trotted out about immigration all the time: immigrants bring disease into the country. That in itself isn’t funny, obviously. The funny part is that it seems like we’re proving the opposite to be true under the Trump administration. As the measles outbreak in America continues to rage, immigration detention camps are starting to feel the effects. ... It’s also worth remembering that the spread of disease is a recurring feature in the concentration camp industry. Deaths from disease as well. And, unlike the trope mentioned above, these are infections immigrants are getting from America, not bringing to her soil. ~ https://www.techdirt.com/2026/02/04/measles-has-now-begun-to-infect-immigrant-detention-camps/ https://www.techdirt.com/2026/02/04/measles-has-now-begun-to...
- notachatbot123 8mo agoNothing funny about people in custody being infected by diseases. It would be funny if the fascists would contract it from other fascists.
- lawn 8mo agoGiven the overlap of the fascists and antivaxers, it's likely they will spread it among themselves.
- j4coh 8mo agoGetting ready for the elections?
- shirro 8mo agoWhen they are full I wonder what the final solution will be?
- davzie 8mo agoIt's crazy watching so many Americans not see the parallels here.
- beej71 8mo agoIt's been a long time and our memory only goes so far back. I'm not even that old, but the time between WWII and my birth is waaaaay less then my current age. Jimmy Doolittle was still hosting Christmas specials on TV when I was a kid. Nobody knows who TF that even is now. I doubt half of America has even heard of the Third Reich. Sure, they know that "Nazi" is some kind of insult, but the rest is history forgotten. The last educational film on the matter was Indiana Jones III. Those of us who remember history will continue to fight, and our numbers aren't small. Maybe one day we can begin to repair the enormous national and global damage that has occurred.
- pseudohadamard 8mo agoIt's pretty much the UN concentration-camp conspiracy theory that rightwing nutters have been pushing for decades, except that now it's their guys doing it so it's all OK.
- JuniperMesos 8mo ago[flagged]
- deafpolygon 8mo agoOne of Hitlers first act was to convert a series of warehouses, unused factories, empty hotels into makeshift camps (“wild camps”) which would set the stage for the eventual concentration camp system. This happened almost immediately after the appointment of Hitler as chancellor. He hadn’t become the Fuhrer yet.
- orwin 8mo agoTo be specific, those warehouses were used to 'reform' political enemies for a few months (communists at first, then democrats and liberals). The point was visible torture, then letting the political opponent out and forbidding him to talk about what happened inside (despite leaving torture marks, removed nails etc).
- aa-jv 8mo agoHitler learned of this method from the British during the Boer wars. Americans are just improvising more modern variants.
- deafpolygon 8mo agoWow, I never thought I’d see people employ whataboutism with Hitler. Guess we are living in a new world now.
- aa-jv 8mo agoI mean, its common knowledge that he was inspired to construct concentration camps by the British and the Belgians doing exactly the same in their colonies. He thought he would get away with it, because they were also doing it - the difference is, they did it way over the horizon, out of sight, whereas he did it in his own backyard for all the world to see.
- lawn 8mo agoThey're not just downplaying Hitler, they're cheering on the same development. Musk's Nazi salute was a sign of the times to come.
- lawn 8mo agoFlagged because people would rather put their head in the sand than to admit what's occurring in front of their eyes.
- lpcvoid 8mo agoRepublicans want to put people in camps without pesky commentary. Nothing new here.
- kreetx 8mo agoFrom what I've understood, Trump was elected to get illegals out. It also seems that the crime rate is actually going down.
- Starman_Jones 8mo agoCrime rate has been going down for 30 consecutive years (except during COVID). Immigrants (legal or otherwise) commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens. "It seems" is doing a lot of work in your comment.
- kreetx 8mo agoWould you say then that effect of deporting illegals is in fact slowing down the decline?
- lawn 8mo agoThe logical conclusion to draw is that it has no observable effect on the crime rate.
- kreetx 8mo agoThere is no logical conclusion to draw, you measure this instead.
- Starman_Jones 8mo agoI don't believe 2025 crime statistics have been released yet, it would take several years of data to conclusively establish a trend, and even if the data did show that, correlation does not equal causation. What does your heart tell you?
- threatofrain 8mo agoWhat is the probability that there shall not be a civil war or coup in the US within the next 10 years? What is the earliest signal to flee?
- AnimalMuppet 8mo agoI may not be the best one to answer - I estimated 50% chance by last August. (I'm happy to be wrong.) A civil war you can flee once the shooting starts. (Probably. Maybe not if you are male and of military age. And the region you're in may close the border for whatever reason.) A coup is perhaps more likely to close the border, or at least to close it to "people like you" (if the side that doesn't like your kind is in charge). For that, I'd keep a close eye on this election, and up until the new Congress takes office, and maybe just after that. But if anything is going to happen, it will probably be before the new Congress is seated, because it's harder to create a veil of plausible grounds after that.
- myvoiceismypass 8mo agoI mean, we already had a self-coup on January 6, 2021 that failed. The next one likely won't fail.
- mothballed 8mo agoYou could get a visa in someplace like UAE tomorrow if you incorporate a shell company. Why would you wait if your plan is to flee anyway? It will only get more difficult the longer you wait. By the way most countries require an apostilled FBI background check, recent copy of birth certificate w/ updated apostille, apostilled other documents, etc for a resident visa and they all have to be done within 90 days of your visa . So by the time the government is dysfunctional you'll only be able to flee to places without functional immigration control like Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, central Africa, etc as there will simply be no way to get the needed documents. Oh and as a side note, having fought, and later leaving a civil war. Most likely you will get out if you have enough intelligence or money to navigate the border but you'll be robbed of everything you have on the way out unless you're just incredibly lucky.
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- kreetx 8mo ago[flagged]
- AnimalMuppet 8mo ago1. The government has the right - and even the responsibility - to enforce the immigration laws. 2. The current administration is doing so far more violently and confrontationally than is needed. Both are true. I can be in favor of enforcement of immigration laws and still be opposed to the way the administration is doing it.
- JuniperMesos 8mo agoWhat would you have them do differently? There are a lot of people who have violated immigration laws in the US.
- beej71 8mo agoI think you can invert GP's point #2 for that one. Here's a start: end immunity and masks for ICE. This will naturally improve things. But that's not all. You can also naturalize people who are being productive citizens.
- saubeidl 8mo agoIf you look closely, putting the Jews in camps will make the life of Germans better! you just need to consume other media channels.
- kreetx 8mo agoIf you look closely, Jews were citizens and an ethnic group. Jews also somehow weren't able protest along with the enemy while whistling. An anti-Bloomberg headline might run like this: Bloomberg wants detention centers for illegals to be without a roof. I.e, of course the deportation process continues, real estate is needed.
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- spwa4 8mo agoWhy not call them what they are? Concentration camps.
- mothballed 8mo agoI think there is a hesitation to downplay what the Jews experienced by using the same name, even if it accurate. Maybe some of the same things are happening but it's not the same as the Jewish experience in Germany. Personally I have no issue with calling them concentration camps but it does feel there needs to be a word to distinguish them from the camps of the Holocaust.
- spwa4 8mo agoI don't want to imply those experiences compare.
- gxnxcxcx 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
- beAbU 8mo agoYou are aware that it's not just the jews that were placed in concentration camps, right?
- mothballed 8mo agoYes of course. But like it or not, people think Holocaust as soon as you say concentration camps, even though the words are far more broad. That's why many of us are hesitant to say it. There have been other words like this. For instance "negro" just means black but if you say it everyone assumes you are referring to slaves or slave-like individuals or referring to a black person as inferior.
- iJohnDoe 8mo agoThey’re concentration camps. What else do you call a place built to hold tens of thousands of people? Why do you need 75,000 beds if you’re not planning to cram people in? Then what happens after they’re locked in there? Are they processed one by one? Do the math. Even with absurdly optimistic assumptions of one hour per person, eight hours a day, every single day. You’re still talking about more than a year to get through 75,000 people. And that assumes perfect efficiency, no delays, no shortages, no illness. While all that’s happening, people will get sick, injured, desperate. People will die. And after someone is “processed,” where do they go? Immediately put on a plane and sent back to their home country? Is that realistically happening at scale? This setup isn’t about processing people. It’s about warehousing them. And when large numbers of people are caged indefinitely under those conditions, deaths get written off as “suicides.”
- josefritzishere 8mo ago*concentration camps.