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Why would it need more than 1? Couldn't they do this with any Mac with an Apple account?

by koolala 8mo ago

vovavili 8mo ago
Mac Minis are perfect for locally running demanding models because they can effectively use ordinary RAM as VRAM.
- hjoutfbkfd 8mo ago
  but people dont use OpenClaw with local models
  - paunchy 8mo ago
    They definitely do. A common configuration is running a supervisor model in the cloud and a much smaller model locally to churn on long running tasks. This frees Openclaw up to lavishly iterate on tool building without running through too many tokens.
    - garciasn 8mo ago
      Unless you're running a large local model in 192GB+ this just won't be ideal, based on real-world experience.
whatsupdog 8mo ago
There are few open source projects coming along that let you sell your compute power in a decentralized way. I don't know how genuine some of these are [0] but it could be the reason: people are just trying to make money. 0. https://www.daifi.ai/ https://www.daifi.ai/
- koolala 8mo ago
  That one definitely looks like a crypto scam.
- Aurornis 8mo ago
  There have been countless projects to sell distributed compute power. I don't know of any that have gotten much traction. Everyone keeps trying to create new ones instead of developing for the existing ones. The one you linked to looks clearly like a pump-and-dump scam, though.
Quarrel 8mo ago
Considering there are 1.5M openclaw agents, created by 17,000 humans, it seems like some people really would use more than 1.
- hjoutfbkfd 8mo ago
  if you are counting reported moltbook accounts there are not, the API was spammed by scripts to create accounts
  - Quarrel 8mo ago
    This was on HN a few days ago, I wasn't counting anything: https://www.wiz.io/blog/exposed-moltbook-database-reveals-millions-of-api-keys https://www.wiz.io/blog/exposed-moltbook-database-reveals-mi...
- wqaatwt 8mo ago
  Are you saying that software is THAT inefficient so that you can’t run a few hundred of them on a single Mac Mini? : D
karlshea 8mo ago
It appears he is selling a service where he comes to you (optionally with a Mac Mini which is probably why he's buying multiple) and sets up OpenClaw for you.
- beepbooptheory 8mo ago
  That truly cant be it right? This is like satire? How much do you even charge for that?
  - karlshea 8mo ago
    Unfortunately not satire, and the answer is $500

Why would it need more than 1? Couldn't they do this with any Mac with an Apple account?

by koolala 8mo ago

Why would it need more than 1? Couldn't they do this with any Mac with an Apple account?

vovavili 8mo ago

Mac Minis are perfect for locally running demanding models because they can effectively use ordinary RAM as VRAM.

hjoutfbkfd 8mo ago
but people dont use OpenClaw with local models
- paunchy 8mo ago
  They definitely do. A common configuration is running a supervisor model in the cloud and a much smaller model locally to churn on long running tasks. This frees Openclaw up to lavishly iterate on tool building without running through too many tokens.
  - garciasn 8mo ago
    Unless you're running a large local model in 192GB+ this just won't be ideal, based on real-world experience.

whatsupdog 8mo ago

There are few open source projects coming along that let you sell your compute power in a decentralized way. I don't know how genuine some of these are [0] but it could be the reason: people are just trying to make money. 0. https://www.daifi.ai/ https://www.daifi.ai/

koolala 8mo ago
That one definitely looks like a crypto scam.
Aurornis 8mo ago
There have been countless projects to sell distributed compute power. I don't know of any that have gotten much traction. Everyone keeps trying to create new ones instead of developing for the existing ones. The one you linked to looks clearly like a pump-and-dump scam, though.

Quarrel 8mo ago

Considering there are 1.5M openclaw agents, created by 17,000 humans, it seems like some people really would use more than 1.

hjoutfbkfd 8mo ago
if you are counting reported moltbook accounts there are not, the API was spammed by scripts to create accounts
- Quarrel 8mo ago
  This was on HN a few days ago, I wasn't counting anything: https://www.wiz.io/blog/exposed-moltbook-database-reveals-millions-of-api-keys https://www.wiz.io/blog/exposed-moltbook-database-reveals-mi...
wqaatwt 8mo ago
Are you saying that software is THAT inefficient so that you can’t run a few hundred of them on a single Mac Mini? : D

karlshea 8mo ago

It appears he is selling a service where he comes to you (optionally with a Mac Mini which is probably why he's buying multiple) and sets up OpenClaw for you.

beepbooptheory 8mo ago
That truly cant be it right? This is like satire? How much do you even charge for that?
- karlshea 8mo ago
  Unfortunately not satire, and the answer is $500