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There are now quite a few cases in Europe where the EU or local govs been de-banking individuals. No court, no judge needed. Much more efficient way to shut dow

by dust42 8mo ago

There are now quite a few cases in Europe where the EU or local govs been de-banking individuals. No court, no judge needed. Much more efficient way to shut down critics. We ain't need no people who delegitimize those in power.

orwin 8mo ago
Can we have a link? In France, at most you can get your account restricted (can't go into deficit and a sum is blocked) until the issue is resolved (99% because of unpaid taxes, sometimes the money is blocked by a judge until a judgement is passed). It's weird if the EU don't have a standard.
- Luhrel 8mo ago
  Look at what happened to Jacques Baud because he criticized the EU on the Ukranian war and is now considered a "pro-russia" and propagating "disinformation". [1] I read what he wrote ("L’art de la guerre russe, comment l’Occident a conduit l’Ukraine à l’échec"), you can download it temporarily here : [2]. His book is absolutely not pro-russia nor pro-EU. [1] https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/former-swiss-intelligence-officer-to-appeal-eu-sanctions-for-pro-russia-propaganda/90682626 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/former-swiss-intelligen... [2] https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/0117e2b4-8e70-4343-8097-7bfe11bfe405 https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/0117e2b4-8e70-4343-8097-7bfe...
  - Wilya 8mo ago
    The guy has a "Conspiracy theory and disinformation" section in his wikipedia page, that mentions 9/11. Come on. That's your "totally not pro-russia" example ?
    - Ferret7446 8mo ago
      So being pro Russia justifies de-banking?
- ThePowerOfFuet 8mo ago
  Qonto is French and so is the commenter on Twitter. What you are saying is not correct; perhaps you are confusing it with the right to an account? https://www.banque-france.fr/fr/a-votre-service/particuliers/droit-au-compte-bancaire https://www.banque-france.fr/fr/a-votre-service/particuliers...
  - orwin 8mo ago
    Yes, exactly. French citizens have an inalienable right to a checking account, enforced by French government. I don't remember the exact law, but I know someone who was 'interdit bancaire' (took too much revolving credits in the 90s) and the local bank _had_ to let him open a new account (a very limited one).
    - ThePowerOfFuet 8mo ago
      Anyone living there, not just citizens. That doesn't mean a bank can't close your account. It just means that if you have none, a bank can be told to give you one.
LunaSea 8mo ago
This sounds like bullshit. The only debanking cases I've been aware of were the US putting pressure on judges from the International Court and a special appointee of the UN for Palestine.

by dust42 8mo ago

orwin 8mo ago

Can we have a link? In France, at most you can get your account restricted (can't go into deficit and a sum is blocked) until the issue is resolved (99% because of unpaid taxes, sometimes the money is blocked by a judge until a judgement is passed). It's weird if the EU don't have a standard.

Luhrel 8mo ago
Look at what happened to Jacques Baud because he criticized the EU on the Ukranian war and is now considered a "pro-russia" and propagating "disinformation". [1] I read what he wrote ("L’art de la guerre russe, comment l’Occident a conduit l’Ukraine à l’échec"), you can download it temporarily here : [2]. His book is absolutely not pro-russia nor pro-EU. [1] https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/former-swiss-intelligence-officer-to-appeal-eu-sanctions-for-pro-russia-propaganda/90682626 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/former-swiss-intelligen... [2] https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/0117e2b4-8e70-4343-8097-7bfe11bfe405 https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/0117e2b4-8e70-4343-8097-7bfe...
- Wilya 8mo ago
  The guy has a "Conspiracy theory and disinformation" section in his wikipedia page, that mentions 9/11. Come on. That's your "totally not pro-russia" example ?
  - Ferret7446 8mo ago
    So being pro Russia justifies de-banking?
ThePowerOfFuet 8mo ago
Qonto is French and so is the commenter on Twitter. What you are saying is not correct; perhaps you are confusing it with the right to an account? https://www.banque-france.fr/fr/a-votre-service/particuliers/droit-au-compte-bancaire https://www.banque-france.fr/fr/a-votre-service/particuliers...
- orwin 8mo ago
  Yes, exactly. French citizens have an inalienable right to a checking account, enforced by French government. I don't remember the exact law, but I know someone who was 'interdit bancaire' (took too much revolving credits in the 90s) and the local bank _had_ to let him open a new account (a very limited one).
  - ThePowerOfFuet 8mo ago
    Anyone living there, not just citizens. That doesn't mean a bank can't close your account. It just means that if you have none, a bank can be told to give you one.

LunaSea 8mo ago

This sounds like bullshit. The only debanking cases I've been aware of were the US putting pressure on judges from the International Court and a special appointee of the UN for Palestine.