3 ms·
The notion of a "mixed economy" is really orthogonal to Marx arguments over capitalism, though it is relevant to other socialist ideologues. To Marx, what matte
by vidarh 9mo ago
The notion of a "mixed economy" is really orthogonal to Marx arguments over capitalism, though it is relevant to other socialist ideologues. To Marx, what mattered was the dominant "mode of production", and the result power dynamic resulting from that. The existence of public services doesn't change that. A socialist system with a free market remains socialist. A capitalist system with public services remain capitalist. Calling either "mixed" doesn't alter what the dominant mode of production is.
As for Marx "spiel about contradictions", all he did was take capitalists seriously on the notion that competition in a truly free market will tend to drive down margins once the market is fully exploited.
One can certainly disagree with his conclusions over the consequences of that - e.g. whether societies will succeed in continuing to mitigate the negative effects, or end up in crises, but the core theory of Marx on capitalism was that competition and markets works as advertised.
- kjshsh123 9mo agoThe existence of different modes of production is an absurd and false dichotomy. Worker co-ops exist today. People are free to make them, and join them if the co-ops will take them. And by socialist system with a free market do you mean one where private ownership of the modes of production remains legal, but simply isn't chosen, or do you consider banning private ownership compatible with free markets?
- Gud 9mo agoPeople aren’t free to make them unless they have the capital. This is a completely bogus statement.
- vidarh 9mo ago> And by socialist system with a free market do you mean one where private ownership of the modes of production remains legal, but simply isn't chosen, or do you consider banning private ownership compatible with free markets? I would consider public ownership but not state ownership compatible with free markets. The only essential element for free markets is competition with sufficiently low regulation. Some socialist ideologies are inherently incompatible with markets, some are not. E.g. libertarian Marxism and other form of libterian socialism are, because they reject centralised government entirely.
- kjshsh123 9mo agoI asked if you consider banning private ownership compatible with free markets.