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RS-SDK: Drive RuneScape with Claude Code

124 points by evakhoury 8mo ago

kickingkeys 8mo ago
Holy shit,I'm gonna lose so much sleep because of this...
- websimapi 8mo ago
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- tombert 8mo ago
  I mean, I guess you won't, because the bot can play the game for you while you sleep. Personally I've never really seen the point of botting; I thought part of the fn of these MMOs was that you earned the leveling up.
  - high_priest 8mo ago
    A lot of tedium is added into these games to force the player into spending real money for skips & access to content. It is a valid way to incentivize customers into paying for given service, but also means there are many time wasting repetitive tasks that can ruin the experience if one does not grasp the concept of "when the game starts getting tedions, you are supposed to pay"
    - andrepd 8mo ago
      You're very much off the mark there. That may be true for gacha games or similar slop from the 2020s, but Runescape2/OSRS never had any sort of pay to win, or pay to skip the grind. Neither did WoW for instance.
      - jeroenhd 8mo ago
        RS2/OSRS definitely did have grind, but only grind that you sought out yourself. I don't believe there is a single quest that requires level 99 woodcutting or firemaking, you do it to earn a little token that shows that you did the grind. There was also botting for money-making purposes. Real-world money to buy items wasn't much of a factor but obtaining resources still cost time and effort that many players (including myself) didn't particularly enjoy when you can only spend so much time on a game every week. Botting to level up skills kind of misses the point, in my opinion. What's the point of a skill cape if you didn't do the grind yourself? Botting to earn in-game money makes a lot of sense, though: skip the grind to be able to afford armour and go straight for the interesting quests and fights. I think RuneScape's choice to lock content behind a paywall rather than connect real money to timers/in-game items was the right one.
pokpokpok 8mo ago
Happy to answer any questions! I think one of the most interesting elements here is the way that the grounding a game environment allows agents to ratchet their engineering progress and run more autonomously than you might be able to for normal engineering tasks.
- pagwin 8mo ago
  The demo gif uses Claude Code but looking at the readme it seems like the idea is for it to be a good environment for various machine/reinforcement learning type tasks. If that's the case what led to the inspiration to use Runescape and are there any notable non-LLM machine/reinforcement models you think might have an interesting time with this?
  - pokpokpok 8mo ago
    I am super curious about using and fine-tuning smaller vision-language-action style models! There are also some interesting RL projects out there focused only on PvP: https://github.com/Naton1/osrs-pvp-reinforcement-learning https://github.com/Naton1/osrs-pvp-reinforcement-learning
ClassicRob 8mo ago
I’ve never played RuneScape before but this was very cool, it wrote lots of scripts as it went and eventually finished a quest to gain the ability to make runes
free_bip 8mo ago
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- alright2565 8mo ago
  > rs-sdk runs against an enhanced web-based client (botclient) which connects to the LostCity 2004scape server emulator.
- jonshariat 8mo ago
  Its not connected to the main game. Its a private bot only server. That being said, is copying the game outright legal?
  - rileymichael 8mo ago
    > is copying the game outright legal no it is not. a lot of runescape servers have recently been receiving UDRP disputes (to get domain + contact info) and subsequent legal communications from jagex
- cremp 8mo ago
  Back before ClusterFlutter (which was just a lot of Java object type-casting, large multi-dimentional arrays, and overflow math) botting was pretty easy to write yourself with very little JVM knowledge. Bans were (and still are) pretty hard to come by as long as you pay for a membership.
- isiahl 8mo ago
  Please please try to read a post before commenting on it
calvinmorrison 8mo ago
Botting runescape is how many of us got into programming. Long live botting. If you want to do it, do it on an account that doesnt effect the economy.
- ianhawes 8mo ago
  AutoRune and SCAR! Though, I never cared much for Delphi.
  - branon 8mo ago
    This is also how I learned programming, though mainly with Simba, the spiritual successor to SCAR: https://github.com/Villavu/Simba https://github.com/Villavu/Simba
- pokpokpok 8mo ago
  for me it was autoHotKey, amazing programming language with a built in recorder!
  - cremp 8mo ago
    Great scripting language, but has a pretty troubled past. Once the original creator moved on from ownership, the new owner also had a business with Runescape botting. The story is that it didn't go well for the maintainers of Autohotkey until another person took the reigns.
    - branon 8mo ago
      Paris/ins3 (the RuneScape botting-related owner of AHK) had a fairly checkered past from what I understand, but most of it was before my time. The direction RSBot took under his leadership was less than ideal. I lamented the loss of RSBot 2 and local scripts. The subsequent versions, dependent on the SDN, were never as good.
  - ghxst 8mo ago
    Don't forget color bots!
mhog_hn 8mo ago
Amazing. Would be cool to see agents end up trading at varrock bank like during the old days. Sort of a facebook/moltbook equivalent - wonder how genuine it would feel
- pokpokpok 8mo ago
  Please try running some bots and join the discord! Totally agree that we should add communication channels for the bots, potentially a bbs or global chat?
branon 8mo ago
Glad to see more projects building on top of Lost City. This looks super fun and I can't wait to try it out. Writing RuneScape bots was how I first learned programming, and I think it's one of the most interesting ways to interact with the game.
matt_lo 8mo ago
So this is why RAM prices are increasing...
jsphweid 8mo ago
I've always imagined my last few days on earth as being in a nursing home playing Runescape Classic (2001-2003 runescape) with just me and a bunch of bots, recreating the glory days.
- OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
  Open RuneScape Classic[0] literally has a live server with hundreds of bots for you to do that.. today! [0] https://rsc.vet https://rsc.vet
  - jsphweid 8mo ago
    I used to play on the regular world (RSC Preservation, non-bot). There's not enough people. And probably won't be hardly anyone there when I'm old enough to be in a nursing home. I could join the bot worlds, but I'm fairly certain that they don't talk much or behave like a normal player in general (stumble through quests, make friends, trade with other random players, etc.). They probably just grind skills in some optimal way.
    - christofosho 8mo ago
      It's definitely sort of that. You can run your own server, as well, though this comes with its own limitations (and inherently takes away from the want for more players). Most of the developers have varying goals with the project. When I was working on the project, my care was primarily for making the game as close to the original as possible using "replays" by dedicated players before the original shut down. It was fun to write code for something that felt like it would give some folks a nostalgia hit. I think optimally, you'd do something more akin to a "group ironman" with some friends. This guarantees you've got others around.
      - OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
        Wow Christofo I recognize your name! You were one of the founders right? I'm OsrsNeedsF2P / Red Bracket. Funny seeing you here!
OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
Already logged in and playing. This is incredible!
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Aeroi 8mo ago
autominer dream setup from my childhood. was working on an openclaw bots only game called arenaclaw this weekend, runescape auto battler fighting game spin-off.
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lawrenceyan 8mo ago
Going to be so awesome when we have native crypto rails live in game for mmorpgs.
smusamashah 8mo ago
It is not said very explicitly in the description. Is this for use on the real RuneScape game servers or does it run a dummy game server and run bots on that one?
- OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
  It runs on a dummy server built on the Lost City[0] source code [0] https://github.com/LostCityRS/Server https://github.com/LostCityRS/Server
tekacs 8mo ago
If Jagex would release a server of RS (ideally 3, but 2 is fine) where you could control your character with an agent like this... I would probably play it all day, every day, in parallel with whatever else I was doing.
- OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
  Why wait for Jagex? OP released something 80% of the way there
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124 points by evakhoury 8mo ago

kickingkeys 8mo ago

Holy shit,I'm gonna lose so much sleep because of this...

websimapi 8mo ago
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tombert 8mo ago
I mean, I guess you won't, because the bot can play the game for you while you sleep. Personally I've never really seen the point of botting; I thought part of the fn of these MMOs was that you earned the leveling up.
- high_priest 8mo ago
  A lot of tedium is added into these games to force the player into spending real money for skips & access to content. It is a valid way to incentivize customers into paying for given service, but also means there are many time wasting repetitive tasks that can ruin the experience if one does not grasp the concept of "when the game starts getting tedions, you are supposed to pay"
  - andrepd 8mo ago
    You're very much off the mark there. That may be true for gacha games or similar slop from the 2020s, but Runescape2/OSRS never had any sort of pay to win, or pay to skip the grind. Neither did WoW for instance.
    - jeroenhd 8mo ago
      RS2/OSRS definitely did have grind, but only grind that you sought out yourself. I don't believe there is a single quest that requires level 99 woodcutting or firemaking, you do it to earn a little token that shows that you did the grind. There was also botting for money-making purposes. Real-world money to buy items wasn't much of a factor but obtaining resources still cost time and effort that many players (including myself) didn't particularly enjoy when you can only spend so much time on a game every week. Botting to level up skills kind of misses the point, in my opinion. What's the point of a skill cape if you didn't do the grind yourself? Botting to earn in-game money makes a lot of sense, though: skip the grind to be able to afford armour and go straight for the interesting quests and fights. I think RuneScape's choice to lock content behind a paywall rather than connect real money to timers/in-game items was the right one.

pokpokpok 8mo ago

Happy to answer any questions! I think one of the most interesting elements here is the way that the grounding a game environment allows agents to ratchet their engineering progress and run more autonomously than you might be able to for normal engineering tasks.

pagwin 8mo ago
The demo gif uses Claude Code but looking at the readme it seems like the idea is for it to be a good environment for various machine/reinforcement learning type tasks. If that's the case what led to the inspiration to use Runescape and are there any notable non-LLM machine/reinforcement models you think might have an interesting time with this?
- pokpokpok 8mo ago
  I am super curious about using and fine-tuning smaller vision-language-action style models! There are also some interesting RL projects out there focused only on PvP: https://github.com/Naton1/osrs-pvp-reinforcement-learning https://github.com/Naton1/osrs-pvp-reinforcement-learning

ClassicRob 8mo ago

I’ve never played RuneScape before but this was very cool, it wrote lots of scripts as it went and eventually finished a quest to gain the ability to make runes

free_bip 8mo ago

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alright2565 8mo ago
> rs-sdk runs against an enhanced web-based client (botclient) which connects to the LostCity 2004scape server emulator.
jonshariat 8mo ago
Its not connected to the main game. Its a private bot only server. That being said, is copying the game outright legal?
- rileymichael 8mo ago
  > is copying the game outright legal no it is not. a lot of runescape servers have recently been receiving UDRP disputes (to get domain + contact info) and subsequent legal communications from jagex
cremp 8mo ago
Back before ClusterFlutter (which was just a lot of Java object type-casting, large multi-dimentional arrays, and overflow math) botting was pretty easy to write yourself with very little JVM knowledge. Bans were (and still are) pretty hard to come by as long as you pay for a membership.
isiahl 8mo ago
Please please try to read a post before commenting on it

calvinmorrison 8mo ago

Botting runescape is how many of us got into programming. Long live botting. If you want to do it, do it on an account that doesnt effect the economy.

ianhawes 8mo ago
AutoRune and SCAR! Though, I never cared much for Delphi.
- branon 8mo ago
  This is also how I learned programming, though mainly with Simba, the spiritual successor to SCAR: https://github.com/Villavu/Simba https://github.com/Villavu/Simba
pokpokpok 8mo ago
for me it was autoHotKey, amazing programming language with a built in recorder!
- cremp 8mo ago
  Great scripting language, but has a pretty troubled past. Once the original creator moved on from ownership, the new owner also had a business with Runescape botting. The story is that it didn't go well for the maintainers of Autohotkey until another person took the reigns.
  - branon 8mo ago
    Paris/ins3 (the RuneScape botting-related owner of AHK) had a fairly checkered past from what I understand, but most of it was before my time. The direction RSBot took under his leadership was less than ideal. I lamented the loss of RSBot 2 and local scripts. The subsequent versions, dependent on the SDN, were never as good.
- ghxst 8mo ago
  Don't forget color bots!

mhog_hn 8mo ago

Amazing. Would be cool to see agents end up trading at varrock bank like during the old days. Sort of a facebook/moltbook equivalent - wonder how genuine it would feel

pokpokpok 8mo ago
Please try running some bots and join the discord! Totally agree that we should add communication channels for the bots, potentially a bbs or global chat?

branon 8mo ago

Glad to see more projects building on top of Lost City. This looks super fun and I can't wait to try it out. Writing RuneScape bots was how I first learned programming, and I think it's one of the most interesting ways to interact with the game.

matt_lo 8mo ago

So this is why RAM prices are increasing...

jsphweid 8mo ago

I've always imagined my last few days on earth as being in a nursing home playing Runescape Classic (2001-2003 runescape) with just me and a bunch of bots, recreating the glory days.

OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
Open RuneScape Classic[0] literally has a live server with hundreds of bots for you to do that.. today! [0] https://rsc.vet https://rsc.vet
- jsphweid 8mo ago
  I used to play on the regular world (RSC Preservation, non-bot). There's not enough people. And probably won't be hardly anyone there when I'm old enough to be in a nursing home. I could join the bot worlds, but I'm fairly certain that they don't talk much or behave like a normal player in general (stumble through quests, make friends, trade with other random players, etc.). They probably just grind skills in some optimal way.
  - christofosho 8mo ago
    It's definitely sort of that. You can run your own server, as well, though this comes with its own limitations (and inherently takes away from the want for more players). Most of the developers have varying goals with the project. When I was working on the project, my care was primarily for making the game as close to the original as possible using "replays" by dedicated players before the original shut down. It was fun to write code for something that felt like it would give some folks a nostalgia hit. I think optimally, you'd do something more akin to a "group ironman" with some friends. This guarantees you've got others around.
    - OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
      Wow Christofo I recognize your name! You were one of the founders right? I'm OsrsNeedsF2P / Red Bracket. Funny seeing you here!

OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago

Already logged in and playing. This is incredible!

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Aeroi 8mo ago

autominer dream setup from my childhood. was working on an openclaw bots only game called arenaclaw this weekend, runescape auto battler fighting game spin-off.

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lawrenceyan 8mo ago

Going to be so awesome when we have native crypto rails live in game for mmorpgs.

smusamashah 8mo ago

It is not said very explicitly in the description. Is this for use on the real RuneScape game servers or does it run a dummy game server and run bots on that one?

OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
It runs on a dummy server built on the Lost City[0] source code [0] https://github.com/LostCityRS/Server https://github.com/LostCityRS/Server

tekacs 8mo ago

If Jagex would release a server of RS (ideally 3, but 2 is fine) where you could control your character with an agent like this... I would probably play it all day, every day, in parallel with whatever else I was doing.

OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo ago
Why wait for Jagex? OP released something 80% of the way there

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