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It's set up to wake up periodically and work autonomously for you based on the broad instructions it's been given. Compared to the usual coding agent workloads,

It's set up to wake up periodically and work autonomously for you based on the broad instructions it's been given. Compared to the usual coding agent workloads, this makes it a lot more "assistant"-like.

PurpleRamen 9mo ago
So people are hyped because they don't know cron?
- azan_ 9mo ago
  Yeah and people were hyped for Dropbox because they did not know rsync and ftp.
  - PurpleRamen 9mo ago
    You forgot cron. rsync without the periodic poll is not a good Dropbox-replacement.
  - mh2266 9mo ago
    Dropbox wasn't given access to your bank account 2fa. There should maybe be slightly more gatekeeping around installing software that unironically advertises itself as RCE: https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security#node-execution-system-run https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security#node-execution-sys...
    - nickthegreek 9mo ago
      There is a large amount of gatekeeping called installing and configuring this software. It is not a trivial task that normies can easily accomplish. You have to walk past so many red flags, that you would rightly be called in idiot if you lost anyting of value. I'll be more concerned for the public when its a double click. Currently it's just a way for techies to fafo. And I do enjoy that there are many people out there messing around with it. It is closer to the 90s experimental net mindset and than I've seen lately. It is also fun that its not a big corpo release. It is not often quick and dirty small team software blows up this big and gets noticed by the world at large.
- nfw2 9mo ago
  It is combination of: - Cron-style heartbeat manager - Easy customization with markdown only - Good out-of-box memory management that just works - Good set of tools out-of-box that just work Like Jack Dorsey said about project success, limit number of details and make those details perfect
causal 9mo ago
That makes sense. I've thought for a while that having an agent that takes initiative rather than reacting to inputs could be really useful, and I imagine it takes a lot of trial and error to make it take just the right amount of initiative.
consumer451 9mo ago
Four months ago, I was playing with basically the same framework to explore the idea of "consciousness," using Claude Agent SDK as the harness and Opus 4.5 as the LLM. I was thinking: wake up every hour, look at some webcams and the weather forecast (senses, change), maybe look at my calendar, maybe read my personal emails for important things, proactively chat with me for work or just fun via email invites. I played with it for a bit, then got back to "serious work." I am such an idiot for not seeing the broader value. One thing is that I was sure some multi-billion dollar company was already doing this, and I am super paranoid about the Lethal Trifecta.
- fwip 9mo ago
  Don't worry, you're not an idiot. This is not gonna pan out.
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  - consumer451 9mo ago
    Just like when I discounted cryptocurrency in 2012, yet again I may be overthinking things. That is the lesson that I would like to share on this platform: If you have an idea, any idea, just do it. Do it now. Build now. It turns out that there are a lot of morons. Role the dice, you are likely not one of the bag holders, as one of the readers of this comment. I wish I had been younger when I had realized this circle of life.
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PurpleRamen 9mo ago

So people are hyped because they don't know cron?

azan_ 9mo ago
Yeah and people were hyped for Dropbox because they did not know rsync and ftp.
- PurpleRamen 9mo ago
  You forgot cron. rsync without the periodic poll is not a good Dropbox-replacement.
- mh2266 9mo ago
  Dropbox wasn't given access to your bank account 2fa. There should maybe be slightly more gatekeeping around installing software that unironically advertises itself as RCE: https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security#node-execution-system-run https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security#node-execution-sys...
  - nickthegreek 9mo ago
    There is a large amount of gatekeeping called installing and configuring this software. It is not a trivial task that normies can easily accomplish. You have to walk past so many red flags, that you would rightly be called in idiot if you lost anyting of value. I'll be more concerned for the public when its a double click. Currently it's just a way for techies to fafo. And I do enjoy that there are many people out there messing around with it. It is closer to the 90s experimental net mindset and than I've seen lately. It is also fun that its not a big corpo release. It is not often quick and dirty small team software blows up this big and gets noticed by the world at large.
nfw2 9mo ago
It is combination of: - Cron-style heartbeat manager - Easy customization with markdown only - Good out-of-box memory management that just works - Good set of tools out-of-box that just work Like Jack Dorsey said about project success, limit number of details and make those details perfect

causal 9mo ago

That makes sense. I've thought for a while that having an agent that takes initiative rather than reacting to inputs could be really useful, and I imagine it takes a lot of trial and error to make it take just the right amount of initiative.

consumer451 9mo ago

Four months ago, I was playing with basically the same framework to explore the idea of "consciousness," using Claude Agent SDK as the harness and Opus 4.5 as the LLM. I was thinking: wake up every hour, look at some webcams and the weather forecast (senses, change), maybe look at my calendar, maybe read my personal emails for important things, proactively chat with me for work or just fun via email invites. I played with it for a bit, then got back to "serious work." I am such an idiot for not seeing the broader value. One thing is that I was sure some multi-billion dollar company was already doing this, and I am super paranoid about the Lethal Trifecta.

fwip 9mo ago
Don't worry, you're not an idiot. This is not gonna pan out.
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- consumer451 9mo ago
  Just like when I discounted cryptocurrency in 2012, yet again I may be overthinking things. That is the lesson that I would like to share on this platform: If you have an idea, any idea, just do it. Do it now. Build now. It turns out that there are a lot of morons. Role the dice, you are likely not one of the bag holders, as one of the readers of this comment. I wish I had been younger when I had realized this circle of life.
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