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Ask HN: Do startups still use JVM?

5 points by z3phyr 14y ago

Are startups still using the Java platform? Keeping in mind the rise of Clojure and Scala, is the JVM the shiny new thing to keep an eye on for the future?

duiker101 14y ago
If by startups you mean those website with strange names that usually end in -ly or -ify than the "big thing" is RoR. Other way I am not 100% sure. I think that if I needed to choose I would not go for Java for the web. But I too would love to hear the opinion of someone more experienced.
jamesjguthrie 14y ago
We only use Java for Android development at Hey Jimmy. For the web we stick to PHP as it's what we know best.
shwetanka 14y ago
I guess it's best to go with language you are most comfortable with and you know best. This will save time learning a new one for startups.
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xackpot 14y ago
I use GWT for front end and PHP on the back end. Since I was more comfortable in Java, GWT came out to be a natural choice.
yolesaber 14y ago
It is definitely not the "shiny new thing" it once was in the mid-nineties and early millennium, but Scala and Clojure have show that the JVM is a versatile platform that can keep up with the latest trends. I did a summer research internship using Scala and was a very eye-opening experience. I know Sonar (http://sonar.me http://sonar.me) uses it in production and it definitely has the potential to grow into a widely-adopted language, especially since more and more people become acquainted with functional programming paradigms.
- z3phyr 14y ago
  Also twitter has adopted the JVM to write its backend services in Scala. (It has dumped RoR). Also, now We are not stuck with Java 6 anymore (there is definately a development going on). Could we see a JVM Renaissance in the future? How about a JVM whose name is no longer JVM, but something different? I am doing clojure, so I name it ClJVM ;)
z3phyr 14y ago
BTW, I am not only talking about web apps, but all the other stuff too... Apps, Solutions, Architectures... My direct question could imply that, how a large company like IBM depends on JVM, can a rising star, a new company or a small buisness can invest its time on the JVM?
bhashamitra 14y ago
I use it for my own startup - bhashamitra.com Tomcat, Java Servlets, MySQL - yup pretty boring 90s thing - but works really well for me. reply
l1ghtm4n 14y ago
I think the biggest kicker recently is JRuby which runs Rails. There is a very large Java ecosystem which can now pull up into Ruby. Seems like I see it everywhere recently.

5 points by z3phyr 14y ago

Are startups still using the Java platform? Keeping in mind the rise of Clojure and Scala, is the JVM the shiny new thing to keep an eye on for the future?

duiker101 14y ago

If by startups you mean those website with strange names that usually end in -ly or -ify than the "big thing" is RoR. Other way I am not 100% sure. I think that if I needed to choose I would not go for Java for the web. But I too would love to hear the opinion of someone more experienced.

jamesjguthrie 14y ago

We only use Java for Android development at Hey Jimmy. For the web we stick to PHP as it's what we know best.

shwetanka 14y ago

I guess it's best to go with language you are most comfortable with and you know best. This will save time learning a new one for startups.

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xackpot 14y ago

I use GWT for front end and PHP on the back end. Since I was more comfortable in Java, GWT came out to be a natural choice.

yolesaber 14y ago

It is definitely not the "shiny new thing" it once was in the mid-nineties and early millennium, but Scala and Clojure have show that the JVM is a versatile platform that can keep up with the latest trends. I did a summer research internship using Scala and was a very eye-opening experience. I know Sonar (http://sonar.me http://sonar.me) uses it in production and it definitely has the potential to grow into a widely-adopted language, especially since more and more people become acquainted with functional programming paradigms.

z3phyr 14y ago
Also twitter has adopted the JVM to write its backend services in Scala. (It has dumped RoR). Also, now We are not stuck with Java 6 anymore (there is definately a development going on). Could we see a JVM Renaissance in the future? How about a JVM whose name is no longer JVM, but something different? I am doing clojure, so I name it ClJVM ;)

z3phyr 14y ago

BTW, I am not only talking about web apps, but all the other stuff too... Apps, Solutions, Architectures... My direct question could imply that, how a large company like IBM depends on JVM, can a rising star, a new company or a small buisness can invest its time on the JVM?

bhashamitra 14y ago

I use it for my own startup - bhashamitra.com Tomcat, Java Servlets, MySQL - yup pretty boring 90s thing - but works really well for me. reply

l1ghtm4n 14y ago

I think the biggest kicker recently is JRuby which runs Rails. There is a very large Java ecosystem which can now pull up into Ruby. Seems like I see it everywhere recently.