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that's kinda the normalization argument, not the reason behind it "it is done because it's always done so"
by NooneAtAll3 9mo ago
that's kinda the normalization argument, not the reason behind it
"it is done because it's always done so"
- DetroitThrow 9mo agoIsn't it both necessary and normal if they need more information about why they were generating CSAM? I don't know why the rule of law shouldn't apply to child pornography or why it would be incorrect to normalize the prosecution of CSAM creators.
- monsieurbanana 9mo agoI'm not sure what you're getting at, physical investigation is the common procedure. You need a reason _not_ to do it, and since "it's all digital" is not a good reason we go back to doing the usual thing.
- mothballed 9mo agoIt's a show of force. "Look we have big strong men with le guns and the neat jack boots, we can send 12 of them in for every one of you." Whether it is actually needed for evidence is immaterial to that.
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- swiftcoder 9mo agoIt can be both things at once. It obviously sends a message, but hey, maybe you get lucky, and someone left a memo in the bin by the printer that blows the case wide open.
- otherme123 9mo agoOr maybe they are storing documents with secrets in a room or even in the bathroom.
- Teever 9mo agoIf law enforcement credibily believes that criminals are conspiring to commit a crime and are actively doing so in a particular location what is wrong with sending armed people to stop those criminal acivities as well as apprehend the criminals and what ever evidence of their crimes may exist? If this isn't the entire purpose of law enforcement then what is exactly?
- mothballed 9mo agoNo, a search warrant isn't intended to [directly] apprehend criminals, though an arrest warrant may come later to do that.
- Teever 9mo agoBut one could reasonably assume that a location that is known to be used for criminal activity and that likely has evidence of such criminal activity likely also has people commiting crimes. When police raid a grow-op they often may only have a search warrant but they end up making several arrests because they find people actively commiting crimes when they execute the warrant.
- pjc50 9mo agoWell, yes, it is actually pretty normal for suspected criminal businesses. What's unusual is that this one has their own publicity engine. Americans are just having trouble coping with the idea of a corporation being held liable for crimes. More normally it looks like e.g. this in the UK: https://news.sky.com/video/police-raid-hundreds-of-businesses-in-money-laundering-crackdown-13346534 https://news.sky.com/video/police-raid-hundreds-of-businesse... CyberGEND more often seem to do smalltime copyright infringement enforcement, but there are a number of authorities with the right to conduct raids.
- learingsci 9mo ago“Americans are just having trouble coping with the idea of a corporation being held liable for crimes.” I’m sorry but that’s absurd even amidst the cacophony of absurdity that comprises public discourse these days.
- Rygian 9mo agoI'll bite. How was TikTok held liable for the crimes it was accused of?
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- throwpoaster 9mo agoIt was force-sold to Oracle.
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