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Bugfixes won't make shareholders happy while shoving AI down our throats will.

by egorfine 9mo ago

XenophileJKO 9mo ago
So you're still in the anger phase?
- Banditoz 9mo ago
  What does that mean?
  - layer8 9mo ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_stages_of_grief https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_stages_of_grief
- egorfine 9mo ago
  Well yes but actually no. For the last ~15 years or so I only use Xcode on the command line sporadically. Prior to that I had to endure the full Xcode experience. I actually liked it between crashes!
doug_durham 9mo ago
In what way is "AI being shoved down you throat"? Did you think that SwiftUI was shoved down your throat? Did you think that CoreData was shoved down your throat. Perhaps develop a more nuanced critique.
- egorfine 9mo ago
  > In what way is "AI being shoved down you throat"? Ask Microsoft, they have much more experience with that. > Did you think that SwiftUI was shoved down your throat? On a scale of 1 to 10, it has been shoved down our throats at level 1 or maybe 2. Thankfully it's optional. > Did you think that CoreData was shoved down your throat No. > Perhaps develop a more nuanced critique. I believe most people who used Xcode perfectly know what I'm talking about.
  - doug_durham 9mo ago
    How are you forced to use it in Xcode? If you don't opt to use it then you don't see it.
    - dmix 9mo ago
      I saw multiple comments on HN complaining about Firefox adding AI. I use FF every day and what happened is there was a single popup asking you if you want to opt in to try using it next to an icon you can hide. In the year since I said no to both I haven’t been bothered once. People just like to complain
- lenkite 9mo ago
  > In what way is "AI being shoved down you throat"? This is a very strange question. It more correct to ask "In what way is AI NOT being shoved down your throat". > Did you think that SwiftUI was shoved down your throat? Yes > Did you think that CoreData was shoved down your throat. No
- stalfosknight 9mo ago
  Copilot being added to the Xbox app on iOS is the latest ridiculous example I've seen of AI being shoved down everyone's throat.
  - andrekandre 9mo ago
    it really is getting ridiculous; atlassian has this other totally useless ai called rovo that invents events/meetings and notes when it tries to summarize a tree of documents and offers random useless "suggestions" for jira docs...

Bugfixes won't make shareholders happy while shoving AI down our throats will.

XenophileJKO 9mo ago

So you're still in the anger phase?

Banditoz 9mo ago
What does that mean?
- layer8 9mo ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_stages_of_grief https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_stages_of_grief
egorfine 9mo ago
Well yes but actually no. For the last ~15 years or so I only use Xcode on the command line sporadically. Prior to that I had to endure the full Xcode experience. I actually liked it between crashes!

doug_durham 9mo ago

In what way is "AI being shoved down you throat"? Did you think that SwiftUI was shoved down your throat? Did you think that CoreData was shoved down your throat. Perhaps develop a more nuanced critique.

egorfine 9mo ago
> In what way is "AI being shoved down you throat"? Ask Microsoft, they have much more experience with that. > Did you think that SwiftUI was shoved down your throat? On a scale of 1 to 10, it has been shoved down our throats at level 1 or maybe 2. Thankfully it's optional. > Did you think that CoreData was shoved down your throat No. > Perhaps develop a more nuanced critique. I believe most people who used Xcode perfectly know what I'm talking about.
- doug_durham 9mo ago
  How are you forced to use it in Xcode? If you don't opt to use it then you don't see it.
  - dmix 9mo ago
    I saw multiple comments on HN complaining about Firefox adding AI. I use FF every day and what happened is there was a single popup asking you if you want to opt in to try using it next to an icon you can hide. In the year since I said no to both I haven’t been bothered once. People just like to complain
lenkite 9mo ago
> In what way is "AI being shoved down you throat"? This is a very strange question. It more correct to ask "In what way is AI NOT being shoved down your throat". > Did you think that SwiftUI was shoved down your throat? Yes > Did you think that CoreData was shoved down your throat. No
stalfosknight 9mo ago
Copilot being added to the Xbox app on iOS is the latest ridiculous example I've seen of AI being shoved down everyone's throat.
- andrekandre 9mo ago
  it really is getting ridiculous; atlassian has this other totally useless ai called rovo that invents events/meetings and notes when it tries to summarize a tree of documents and offers random useless "suggestions" for jira docs...