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What features are they missing that a native app would allow for? No-one outside of a small sliver of the tech community cares if an app is built with web tech

What features are they missing that a native app would allow for? No-one outside of a small sliver of the tech community cares if an app is built with web tech Electron also opens up easier porting to Linux which almost certainly wouldn't happen if companies insist on native only

FridgeSeal 8mo ago
Users care about performance and jank, it’s just that they’ve been successfully forced to shut-up-and-deal-with-it. They’re not involved in purchasing or feedback, and the people that are don’t use it enough to care, or just don’t care. Users who complain about it may as well shout into the void for how much companies take note, but hey, at least we got an ai button now! Atlassian products are a great example of this. Everyone knows Atlassian has garbage performance. Everyone complains about it. Never gets fixed though. Everyone I know could write customer complaints about its performance in every feedback box for a year, and the only thing that would happen is that we’d have wasted our own time. Users _care_ about this stuff. They just aren’t empowered to feedback about it, or are trained to just sigh and put up with it.
- itemize123 8mo ago
  i think you've to be more nuanced here - perf becomes important only on the extreme. i think there are compromises to be made between perf and go-to-market.
- AstroBen 8mo ago
  I find outside of specific use cases the performance and jank are down to the developers and not whether it's native or not Obsidian is an Electron app which is pretty much universally loved. We can both give single examples
- tokioyoyo 8mo ago
  “They just aren’t empowered to feedback about it, or are trained to just sigh and put up with it” is a roundabout way of saying users don’t care about it enough.
  - nazgul17 8mo ago
    Software decisions are often not made by who will use said software.

FridgeSeal 8mo ago

Users care about performance and jank, it’s just that they’ve been successfully forced to shut-up-and-deal-with-it. They’re not involved in purchasing or feedback, and the people that are don’t use it enough to care, or just don’t care. Users who complain about it may as well shout into the void for how much companies take note, but hey, at least we got an ai button now! Atlassian products are a great example of this. Everyone knows Atlassian has garbage performance. Everyone complains about it. Never gets fixed though. Everyone I know could write customer complaints about its performance in every feedback box for a year, and the only thing that would happen is that we’d have wasted our own time. Users _care_ about this stuff. They just aren’t empowered to feedback about it, or are trained to just sigh and put up with it.

itemize123 8mo ago
i think you've to be more nuanced here - perf becomes important only on the extreme. i think there are compromises to be made between perf and go-to-market.
AstroBen 8mo ago
I find outside of specific use cases the performance and jank are down to the developers and not whether it's native or not Obsidian is an Electron app which is pretty much universally loved. We can both give single examples
tokioyoyo 8mo ago
“They just aren’t empowered to feedback about it, or are trained to just sigh and put up with it” is a roundabout way of saying users don’t care about it enough.
- nazgul17 8mo ago
  Software decisions are often not made by who will use said software.