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Previously: US air travelers without REAL IDs will be charged a $45 fee https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46115731 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=461

Previously: US air travelers without REAL IDs will be charged a $45 fee https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46115731 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46115731 TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46138101 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46138101

superkuh 10mo ago
Yep. It's important to highlight this is not about flying without ID. It's flying without the new federal ID and their attempt to coerce people into getting the federal ID.
- Helithumper 10mo ago
  “New” Real ID is 21yrs old at this point.
  - tdeck 10mo ago
    They've been pushing it back every year because states haven't implemented it uniformly. Washington gave me a non real-ID card in 2022. IIRC the only real-ID option at the time was an Enhanced ID which can be used to cross the border from Canada and costs $100.
    - philipkglass 10mo ago
      Washington gave me a non real-ID driver's license in November 2025. I don't plan on upgrading it unless forced to since I also have a passport.
      - monksy 10mo ago
        Get a passport card or a Global entry card .. easier to carry on you for domestic travel.
        fc417fc802 10mo ago
        > easier to carry on you for domestic travel. But I shouldn't have to. That's the issue here. I shouldn't need an ID of any sort. I shouldn't need to provide my name or date of birth. Either I have weapons or dangerous substances on me or I don't. That's all that should matter.
        duskdozer 10mo ago
        What about dangerous thoughts or opinions that run against government interests? That seems rather dangerous as well, don't you think?
  - superkuh 10mo ago
    As the other comments inform you, many states were not coerced into adopting it until very recently. In these ~dozen states the majority of people do not have the new federal ID. There are Enhanced Driver's Licenses as alternatives the to the invasive federal ID but most just have the normal state ID that work perfectly well; excepting these contrived situations the feds use to try to force people with.

superkuh 10mo ago

Yep. It's important to highlight this is not about flying without ID. It's flying without the new federal ID and their attempt to coerce people into getting the federal ID.

Helithumper 10mo ago
“New” Real ID is 21yrs old at this point.
- tdeck 10mo ago
  They've been pushing it back every year because states haven't implemented it uniformly. Washington gave me a non real-ID card in 2022. IIRC the only real-ID option at the time was an Enhanced ID which can be used to cross the border from Canada and costs $100.
  - philipkglass 10mo ago
    Washington gave me a non real-ID driver's license in November 2025. I don't plan on upgrading it unless forced to since I also have a passport.
    - monksy 10mo ago
      Get a passport card or a Global entry card .. easier to carry on you for domestic travel.
      - fc417fc802 10mo ago
        > easier to carry on you for domestic travel. But I shouldn't have to. That's the issue here. I shouldn't need an ID of any sort. I shouldn't need to provide my name or date of birth. Either I have weapons or dangerous substances on me or I don't. That's all that should matter.
        duskdozer 10mo ago
        What about dangerous thoughts or opinions that run against government interests? That seems rather dangerous as well, don't you think?
- superkuh 10mo ago
  As the other comments inform you, many states were not coerced into adopting it until very recently. In these ~dozen states the majority of people do not have the new federal ID. There are Enhanced Driver's Licenses as alternatives the to the invasive federal ID but most just have the normal state ID that work perfectly well; excepting these contrived situations the feds use to try to force people with.